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Hi, LOOOOVE the guide<3 I just want a bit more help. I have a lot of success with red kayn, but feel like i get more value from DH then Conq. Is this logical in anyway or am I just a big noob. I also would like to hear your opinion on bans. I HATE Shaco and have been perma banning him, but would Master Yi or someone else be better to ban? Lastly I find i a bit hard to understand which are squishy and tank champions. I understand that ranged champions (marksman and mages) are squishy, but should i count assassins as squishy. With tanks im more confused in referance to your counter page. Isn't red kayn mega strong against tanks since both q and r is precent health? Is he just strong into tanks which stacks health and weak against the once that stack resistances?
I'm just level 26 so I have no rank. I really like Kayn, although i find the jungle role to be a bit difficult. Any help would be very helpfull and againt thanks for the guide <3

Hi!
I might’ve made some mistakes in the translation, but I hope everything’s clear!

1. Conqueror vs Dark Harvest
Personally, I pick Conqueror assuming I’ll be playing as a frontline, soaking up damage. That’s why I need sustain during teamfights (plus Conq gives bonus AD).
On the other hand, there’s Dark Harvest. I’d say it’s a situational rune — useful when you’re not planning to tank a lot of damage. It gives tons of bonus damage, especially later in the game.
It’s less effective in 5v5 teamfights, but has more burst potential against 1 or 2 targets.

Summary:

Conqueror is great for 5v5 fights when you're the frontline.
Dark Harvest works better when you're not the frontline and the enemy team has few (or no) tanks.

Both runes are viable, depending on the situation. At higher ranks, Dark Harvest is very niche and only picked in rare matchups, which is why I didn’t include it in my main rune pages (though maybe I should have).

2. Bans
I wouldn’t say Shaco is a hard matchup. All you really need to do is press Oracle Lens and avoid stepping on his W boxes.
Almost always, before he uses Q or R, you should press your R (especially in 1v1 or 1v2 fights).

As for my perma-ban, I usually go for Master Yi — especially after his recent buff in the last and upcoming patch.
Other good ban options are Poppy or Fiddlesticks.

In the end, bans always depend on your personal playstyle and preferences. The best way to find out who you should ban — just play more games :)

3. What are Squishies?
Squishies, in my view, are champions with low HP who don’t build any resistances.
Examples include most ADCs, assassins, mages, and some duelists.

Let’s take Anivia — she’s a mage, but I wouldn’t call her squishy because her passive makes it hard to burst her quickly.
On the other hand, Aphelios is a good example of a squishy — he usually doesn’t build HP or armor, and can be killed very quickly.

4. What are Tanks?
Tanks are the opposite of squishies. They almost always build HP and resistances.
Most obvious examples: Amumu, Maokai, Sejuani.
You’re not going to burst them down easily :)

5. About Counterpick Pages
This one isn’t so black and white. While tanks do have a lot of HP, they also come with tons of CC.

Red Kayn is a perfect champ into HP stackers like Sion, but he still struggles vs armor. Armor reduces all your damage, even if it's %HP-based. That’s why you must build Black Cleaver or Serylda’s Grudge against them.

The problem with tanks isn’t just that they’re tanky — it’s that they prevent you from diving deeper in teamfights.
In a 1v1, Red Kayn can usually win against tanks. But in teamfights, it’s a different story.

Final words:
Even though you’re level 26, you're asking the right questions :)
Hope this helped and answered everything.
If you need anything — feel free to reach out, I’ll always reply.

Thank you so much, very very helpful. I just hit level 30 and have played some ranked games. Your english is very good so don't worry about that <3
I have a couple more question tho. First how do you play mid to late games as blue Kayn. I can't play fornt line so I think my job is to dive there back line, but usally I just end up trading my self for the mid or bot. I feel I have little impact and end up counting on my team to win the 4v4 (which haven't worked out so well my last 2 matches).
This one is not really about Kayn but maybe you have good answer. What should I have as my backup jungler. I have been trying Trundle but feels he's hard to play when enemy team is just squishies.
I want to try Nocturne or Pantheon, but have been advised against playing to many champions. Any thoughs would be appreciate. Thanks agian <<<<3333

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Hey, sorry for the long wait on my reply!

1. About Blue Kayn in post-mid to late game
On Blue Kayn, you can only really be on the frontline if you have Rhaast (red form with shadow skin) — and even then, only to tank a little, soak some damage, and get out.

As for regular Blue Kayn — you obviously can’t act as a frontliner, and your focus should be on the enemy backline. Trading 1-for-1 is not always good, since you’re basically the main carry who’s pulling the game. You dying means your team loses a lot of pressure.

It’s better to catch the enemy mid or ADC (APC) before teamfights, when they overextend or make mistakes. If you’re going to target their ADC or mid in a fight, do it with the mindset that you MUST survive afterwards. Always try to keep your Flash or ultimate for these fights — your R lets you dash through thin walls, then you can E+Q to escape, shifting enemy focus onto your tanks and away from yourself.

Don’t forget that you almost always have the highest movespeed on your team, so running in first to chase their ADC or mid is a bad idea — in late game, squishy carries are rarely alone. At least a support will be glued to them, and often the entire team — that’s how you end up in a 1v5. Sometimes your job isn’t to kill them but to zone them away from your team’s hypercarry, so your ADC can deal more damage while the enemy focuses on protection.

Engage on carries from over walls or angles they wouldn’t expect. Overall, Blue Kayn becomes mediocre in late game. If you’re dragging the game out or know it’s going to be long, check my Runes section — you’ll probably want Gathering Storm. On top of that, you can take Transcendence, Absolute Focus, or Axiom Arc, depending on what you need and like most.

In previous seasons, I always took Sorcery as my secondary rune tree for Blue Kayn, but the meta has shifted more toward early-mid game now.

2. Secondary jungler
When Kayn is banned or my team comp is just too strange/weak, or clearly worse than the enemy’s, I usually just dodge.

If you want a secondary jungler, I’d recommend Viego or Talon:

Viego — Not hard to play at first, but you’ll need to know almost every champion in the game. That’s why I recommend him: start playing him in normals to learn other champs, since his kit lets you use their abilities after possession. Once you understand things, you can take him into ranked. His kit is similar to Kayn’s: Q — basic skillshot slash, W — dash with stun, E — AS + movespeed + camouflage in mist, R — short blink with AoE damage, slow on the lowest HP target, and knockback for others.
Talon — My go-to Blue Kayn replacement. Q — gapclose/crit melee attack, W — returning skillshot, E — wall-climb dash with cooldown per wall, R — invisibility + movespeed, breaking on attack and sending blades out (towards enemy if you attack, back to you if you don’t). Hitting enemies with abilities stacks passive — at 3 stacks, your next auto applies a bleed DoT.

If you like other champs, just try them! I’m not the ultimate authority here :)
About Trundle — he’s only really good in duels vs low-mobility bruisers/tanks. Almost any champ with a dash can kite him.

3. Having a wide champion pool
A small champion pool isn’t always great. Look at pro player Diamondprox — he plays almost every jungler well and always picks what fits the situation.

On the other hand, you can OTP 1–2 champs, know every matchup and mechanic, and perform perfectly on them. It all depends on what you want.

If you’re just starting League, try many champions first to see which you like most, learn when they’re played, and understand their basics.

That’s it :)
Feel free to ask me more questions!
Good luck in your next games ;D

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