I tried all the items suggested above in various games, but i still prefer having more killing power and trust in my use of body slam and position to survive team fights

Lo prometido es deuda, aquí tiene usted mi voto.

Buena guía :)

Actually that sounds good too, but it can ruin your mid-late game, the rise in damage when completing rabbadons deathcap can net you some kills around levels 14-16 that will get you pretty damn near that archangels and total ownage.

The loss of, lets say, 400 extra mana from tear will only result in a 15 AP difference (thats counting rabbadons) so it wont change your game, while deathcap does turn you into a killing machine.

Anyway ill try that too and tell you about it.

OH darn I entirely missed that. Sorry, you're correct in saying that it gives 145 AP.

However, it still applies that you only get 4 mana per spell cast, that CAPS at 1000. So yes, you'll have more AP later on, but it may take at 20 minutes to even match the AP from zhonya's hourglass. This can be solved by buying an early Tear and upgrading after buying your Deathcap.

If you check the mana indicated at the build you will see Archangels gives 140 AP, thats excluding rabbadons bonus, which would make a total 186 vs 130 from zhonyas, and archangels also allows you to become ridiculosly powerful in case of a very long game if you get a second archangels staff...

Anywat, thanks for the feedback, ill try it in some games and check the results updating the guide if neccesary

If that's the case, then get rid of Archangel's Staff. It gives 100 AP with this much mana, which is good, but it takes a long time to charge up, so a Zhonya's Hourglass, while slightly more expensive, is much better suited for this build. RoA should provide more than enough mana to cure your mana-thirst, and Zhonya's has better defensive application.

Early tear will go agains getting early RoA or or rabbadon which i think are better than the bonus ap from tears mana, the mana mastery gives ap for end game, even thoug i see the usefulness of movement mastery ill kepp taking mana.

THANKS FOR POSITIVE VOTES!!

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It'll take a long time to charge up your Tear, so buy it early on.

Full ap gragas ftw! i'd recomend u to take the movement speed mastery over the mana one. I think clarity is not really needed with gragas if you are always using your W. Maybe ignite could do better and grant you some early kills ^^

Nice build, seems like it can work. Ow I dont want to see that Gragas against me ^_^
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