Xin Zhao and Jungling

[quote=Searz]The item gives HP5. That's rarely good..[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]so you buy starks fervor for the 30hp5? we're talking about lifesteal, and i mentioned it because 20% lifesteal 40% attack speed, which procs your passive faster plus combined with w reduces cooldowns -20 armor aura the 30hp5 isnt very useful at all i agree but the emblem of valor is fairly nice for laning/jungling[/quote]

[quote=Searz]The problem is that you pay for the 30HP5. You get less stats for your money. It's also a cheap item so it's very weak compared to other items.[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn]I don't see a problem with HSGG's core of Ghostblade+Sword of the Divine. Adds up to 75 armor penetration with runes and an obscene amount of attack speed.[/quote]

[quote=Searz]Ok.. Look at it this way. About 800 of the 2550gold you pay for it are for the HP5. You only get bonuses for 1750gold if you disregard the HP5. Compared to SotD or Wit's End (or even BT or Wriggle) it's just way inferior.[/quote]

[quote=Hamduden][quote=Searz] Compared to SotD or Wit's End (or even BT or Wriggle) it's just way inferior. [/quote] But none of those items have any lifesteal. You don't think lifesteal is needed on Xin? The passive don't really give that much HP. EDIT: What I mean is: from experience, I've noticed that lifesteal on Xin is pretty damn good. And I don't really see a viable alternative to Starks. Actually, imho, I think Starks is awesome. Of course the 30HP/5 isn't the best thing on Starks, but together with Randuin's (I see it as core on Xin) it gives a pretty decent amount of HP/5 which is maybe a bit useful after all.[/quote]