i would max Q before E

Nice build... Only I would go for a BV instead of a rylai's as you need some MR more then some more hp... Read my guide plz ;)

first time with fiddle :D score 11 2 2 .... i know its not so good but the game was only 25min :D after they surrendered (it was 5n5 .... no afk no leavers normal 5n5 ) :D

Yea it's a bit outdated. and kinda small. You don't go for details much.

Madmack this a very nice guide, +1

why did you like the combination from flash and ghost so much?
I think a Clarity or a Exhaust would be better.

umm 9 quints? :D

I am glad someone likes my title :)

Agreed, but I get doran's ring for extra hp and ability power. I found this to be more effective than any other first item choice.

Void staff is not like Last Whisper. Void staff increases your Magic Penetration by +40% So if you have 24 Magic Penetration, Void staff ups it to 33.6 Magic Penetration.

I'd like to agree with you here, but I can't. Drain is so powerful at level 5 I cannot justify stopping at level 3. The fact that they run out of range is even more reason to have it at a higher level. You will need to do more damage with it in a shorter time.

Again, you need to re-examine how Void Staff works. It is not like Last Whisper.

Honestly, +1 just for the name.

Skimming over the build, it looks good! But you had me at the title.

You don't need the mana regen from Dorans because you have blue buff up most of early game.

Void Staff is waste of gold in most cases, because the magic penetration % comes after your flat penetration. You have around 70 magic penetration before void staff bonus throws in. 150 MR and you penetrate 32 extra, but how many enemies even have over 100 MR? If every opponent had 100 MR, you would still be paying 1k gold for 12 mr. Just get a haunting guise instead.

Drain is good for jungle, but you rarely get to finish the whole channel before you get interrupted or enemy runs out of range. Drain 3 is enough till lvl10+.


Good build, but I just hate seeing void staff with high flat MrP.

Thanks for the feedback. What are your choices for runes?

I have just found so much more killing power by grabbing Magic Penetration Runes. It doesn't help with your jungling at all, but verses champions I can't imagine going with anything else.

Very well-written. : D
Your reasons for Rylai's and Zhonya's are identical to mine. Can't say I agree on the runes, but the item progression looks spot on and the ganking philosophy looks nice. +1
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