I smell... useless price for nerf

[quote=JunSupport][quote=Luther3000] Vayne was overpowered at launch and you know it. Leona is fine imo, save for the fact that she's useless in the current metagame. Also, what about Yorick, who was released underpowered for 6300 and has now been buffed into usefulness (some would even say he's OP now)? It doesn't really have much to do with the champion prices. [/quote] Vayne has no AoE -> No team-wide thread late game. Ashe [icon=Volley size=16], Corki (everything), MF [icon=Bullet Time size=16] all have AoEs. A good carry needs some AoE that makes the enemy less willing to bum-rush them. Leona has weak farming, and low damage output late game. [[Eclipse]] should be her best farming tool, but it can't clear minion waves like Sion's [[Death's Caress]]. While her entire kit has low base damage that isn't threatening enough to make enemies want to focus her. Her triple-cc can lock down one target, but in the current high-damage team comps, the other 4 can ignore her and make her team squeal. Yorick has a beast late-game, but had a worse early game then Kayle which held him back. Fix early game -> OP late-game beast.[/quote]

[quote=Bloofyre]QQing about nerfs to expensive OP champs?? Really? Its called balancing. Deal with it.[/quote]

[quote=KillaTheNinja]Ha, you think Vayne isn't worth 6300 now? No doubt she's still EASILY one of the best dps in the game and well worth 6300. Strong early game (with a partner) and she snowballs like a beast. I haven't used Leona myself, but I don't think shes op. If anything she needs some lower cool downs.[/quote]

[quote=DEWO]Sorry but i read only the 1st post here and didnt feel the urge to read through this thread carefully since i smell a bigass QQ XD Vayne UP now? Worth 4800? 3150? You have to be kiddin me... srsly... She is atm ban no. 2 right after Amumu for competitive playing. What does your whole thinking idea do with the connection of IP price to the power of the champion? So you say that Ashe is the worst ranged carry ingame right? You are telling me that Annie is the worst caster ingame and Master Yi is completly useless coz he is melee and costs only 450 IP? What a broken way of thinking about champions. Isnt this game about making ALL champions more or less balanced? It is impossible but isnt it trying to achieve that?[/quote]

[quote=xIPainIx]Prices don't really have to do anything with how good the champion is for example Ashe is one of the best carries going and she's 450. The reason new champs are normally 6300 is a marketing strategy where normally most players don't have 6k+ laying around so they buy riot points instead. But like I said being 6300 IP doesn't mean a champion is stronger.[/quote]

[quote=RaNuD][quote=xIPainIx] Prices don't really have to do anything with how good the champion is for example Ashe is one of the best carries going and she's 450. The reason new champs are normally 6300 is a marketing strategy where normally most players don't have 6k+ laying around so they buy riot points instead. But like I said being 6300 IP doesn't mean a champion is stronger. [/quote] First decent comment I read so far about pricing in this thread (along [s]JunSupport's[/s] reference to Ashe). Anyway, buying a 6.3k champion isnt supposed to mean you are going to roflstomp 3150 and bellow, it generally means you'll have a harder time learning how to use his abilites... EDIT: Derp, it was DEWO not JunSupport.[/quote]

[quote=Joobieo#41288]Why would they release a champion , make you pay 6300 IP and have them be UP right away. Its marketing....of course more times than the champion will be OP on release then lets say balanced.[/quote]