Thanks for screwin up Pantheon

[quote=JoeDaBan]So Pant´s Ulti no more global, doesnt even reach from lane to lane, sucks ha? Why dont they do this to Karthus? What can we do? Any suggestions? Burn the rome or what?[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]He's getting some buffs in a week or two. Also, stay the hell away from my Karthus.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]The range needs to be longer, yea. At least have it reach from top to the bottom of mid. I mean, right now, it's absolutely terrible. What RIOT has said pretty much is, "You play global champion? We nerf now. Give no compensation", and it makes people like TF balanced while making Pantheon way more UP than he was before.[/quote]

[quote=JoeDaBan]:D OK Mr. K Are u sure though hes gonna get somethin back, and would it be the original range or, do u know some specific information? :D[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]I know Pantheon's getting buffs. RIOT's just waiting until next patch to see how badly they broke him. <_<[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]Actually consensus seems that TF is a lot weaker now too. His range is just as gimped as Panth and his ult has a more immediate advantage than Panth. But with that said it still doesn't have the utility or sting that it did before. The issue I see when nerfing these global ults is that 1. These were stock kit for both champs, the play style and mechanic incorporated itself into TF and Panth. Without it, both feel a little less whole. 2. Both panth and TF were not compensated this patch, although compensating TF was not in the original plan...Not buffing Panth immediately? Seems like they're just waiting to see what kind of shit storm they've created. This way when they buff Panth it will shut people up.... 3. The people who love these champs will find a way to play through the pain.[/quote]

[quote=theBMB]It's the same deal with eve, she was nerfed so hard that she's unplayable. I mean sure you can still play her and potentially win, but only if the rest of your team is really good. So basically there are two unplayable champs until they get the reworks/buffs out[/quote]

[quote=KillaTheNinja][quote=theBMB] It's the same deal with eve, she was nerfed so hard that she's unplayable. I mean sure you can still play her and potentially win, but only if the rest of your team is really good. So basically there are two unplayable champs until they get the reworks/buffs out [/quote] Then there's Twitch, who is as useless as Eve. Terrible base damage and movement speed, no good escape, and just about anyone can kill him 1v1.[/quote]

[quote=Joobieo#41288][quote=theBMB] It's the same deal with eve, she was nerfed so hard that she's unplayable. I mean sure you can still play her and potentially win, but only if the rest of your team is really good. So basically there are two unplayable champs until they get the reworks/buffs out [/quote] Sad but true. I never see Eve in ranked anymore who use to be a auto ban / pick.[/quote]

[quote=Rudmed]The unplayable bench has earned a new champion. Twisted Fate! This nerf has really hurt TF. Simply because he needed that range in order to postion himself for ganks, or heck even be there to help. Now if I go mid, and see an ally getting killed, I just kinda sit there, and say "Well that sucks". For me to go and gank I have to go to the island brush to teleport into the two bushes. So when I get called mia, the enemy team will go back to the tower, and I acomplish nothing, but lose exp, and farm. Quite litteraly TF's ult is now a global clairvoyance is what most of the consenus says. Unless they want to go to another lane then use it to gank, or use it to catch up to someone (now practically its only use). Now TF is practically utillity due to the remaineder of his kit. Okay here is a stun.........stun.......stun. Oh they're all mia here...okay there they are.[/quote]