The range needs to be longer, yea. At least have it reach from top to the bottom of mid. I mean, right now, it's absolutely terrible.
What RIOT has said pretty much is, "You play global champion? We nerf now. Give no compensation", and it makes people like TF balanced while making Pantheon way more UP than he was before.
What RIOT has said pretty much is, "You play global champion? We nerf now. Give no compensation", and it makes people like TF balanced while making Pantheon way more UP than he was before.

Actually consensus seems that TF is a lot weaker now too. His range is just as gimped as Panth and his ult has a more immediate advantage than Panth. But with that said it still doesn't have the utility or sting that it did before.
The issue I see when nerfing these global ults is that
1. These were stock kit for both champs, the play style and mechanic incorporated itself into TF and Panth. Without it, both feel a little less whole.
2. Both panth and TF were not compensated this patch, although compensating TF was not in the original plan...Not buffing Panth immediately? Seems like they're just waiting to see what kind of **** storm they've created. This way when they buff Panth it will shut people up....
3. The people who love these champs will find a way to play through the pain.
The issue I see when nerfing these global ults is that
1. These were stock kit for both champs, the play style and mechanic incorporated itself into TF and Panth. Without it, both feel a little less whole.
2. Both panth and TF were not compensated this patch, although compensating TF was not in the original plan...Not buffing Panth immediately? Seems like they're just waiting to see what kind of **** storm they've created. This way when they buff Panth it will shut people up....
3. The people who love these champs will find a way to play through the pain.
"Wait another 2 weeks for making Pantheon fully playable again"?
THey couldn't wait with the nerf 2 weeks instead and release both the nerf and buff at the same time? Orl'y? o_O
THey couldn't wait with the nerf 2 weeks instead and release both the nerf and buff at the same time? Orl'y? o_O

Thanks to jhoijhoi, Brynolf, Jeffy40hands, Samoh, MissMaw, Vavena, Koksei and The-Nameless-Bard for my signs
It's the same deal with eve, she was nerfed so hard that she's unplayable. I mean sure you can still play her and potentially win, but only if the rest of your team is really good. So basically there are two unplayable champs until they get the reworks/buffs out
theBMB wrote:
It's the same deal with eve, she was nerfed so hard that she's unplayable. I mean sure you can still play her and potentially win, but only if the rest of your team is really good. So basically there are two unplayable champs until they get the reworks/buffs out
theBMB wrote:
It's the same deal with eve, she was nerfed so hard that she's unplayable. I mean sure you can still play her and potentially win, but only if the rest of your team is really good. So basically there are two unplayable champs until they get the reworks/buffs out
Sad but true. I never see Eve in ranked anymore who use to be a auto ban / pick.
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