Wow, I learned so much from this. Thank you so much!

Check out my guide, I am going to add itemization+counters to it but if you could write it form me all the best and I would give you credit. I have played an am familair with all the champions especially junglers. http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/a-more-indepth-look-at-all-champs-and-synergies-103965 I am still in the process of writting it also :P.

thank you for your input when i get the time i will definitely add to it thanks :)

See Above ^^

I agree with Skrallz on this one, it is a good base but can certainly be improved. To be less vague I'd like to see:

1 . A section on or mention of situations where counter building is necessary. You can't always build against the hero with the highest kills in the early game if they have a late bloomer. Also you should spell out that people need to look at their items because champions can be built a variety of ways (AP v AD Sion for example) so you have to counter the damage source appropriately.

2. A section on or mention of the "difficult to choose between" items, such as Banshee Veil or Force of Nature? Sunfire Cape or Randuin's Omen?

3. A section on or mention of the "hybrid resistance" items such as Guardian Angel and Aegis of the Legion.

4. Better descriptions on when to build health and when to build resistance, including discussion of how much resistance is too much resistance and when to get health and how much to get (early HoG or no?)

5. Gold/5 items and Regen items. Sometimes a Philo Stone is the right answer to your lane opponent, sometimes you can rush your sheen to just manhandle them. Explore this some more.

6. Description of what some items can do on the offensive and/or how to counter the current game STATE not just ENEMIES. This can be something like rushing bloodrazors on Teemo in order to get an early Baron in versus building early damage in order to get more lane dominance.


I'm going to vote this up, but more description, depth and thought can go into this to make it truly great, as the topic is a valid one.

sorry guys but i'm not exactly the best jungler nor do i effectively play the majority of the cahmps that i have listed in the guide so most of them are just somewhat of a common recommended generic build for the general situation therefore the majority of the builds can be viewed as a semi weak build or bad builds. currently i am a support and caster mainer so the builds on the supports and the casters are probably more reliable than the ones on the junglers, the carries, and the tanks as those are probably the generic of the generic builds. any suggestion on the any of the builds would be helpful. as well any suggestion on the guide in general would also help. i do not believe that i am 100% right on all of these so i would most definitely accept constructive criticism.

What you have written is constructive, but the builds aren't that awesome. Note that Madred's Razors is good enough for junglers, and should be upgraded to Bloodrazors over Wriggle's lantern, unless you need the lifesteal a lot or the ward a lot.

Otherwise pretty nice :)

Good, but you can improve this