@mastajdog - Thank you sir for the very positive feedback. I have so many Singed games played, and several friends that use my exact setup, and we rarely lose when one of us uses Singed. As for Heal, I never use it on 5v5 but it can be amusing on Twisted Treeline, as people seem to be much more prone to early raging if you push their buttons =)

Out of every single person I know that plays Singed, and yes that includes a few in 1500-1800 range, I have yet to see them use that item on Singed. and most of the time when I see a Singed on the enemy team get one, he is giving up armor and magic resist for some health, ap, and a slow. You already have a great slow, your team members will also have quite a bit of cc in most cases, and if you add Rylai's to your CORE then you are are not leaving enough slots for counter-building, which every tank should be accustomed to doing

I am sorry that your opinion is different than mine, but you should also keep an open mind for diversity, which is what League of Legends promotes.

I am also sorry that you could be so biased about an item that you would auto-downvote any build that doesn't cater to your exact belief on 1 aspect, in particular when we're all here to help one another.

Downvoting because I posted a barely thrown together guide with poor grammer and no effort with really bad advice everywhere is cool and all, but why downvote because you are so anal about 1 single item.

Also downvoting without commenting is pretty much trolling because how is someone supposed to improve a guide if feedback is not given? And if you really think about it and read everything I put about Rylai's, I did say it fits in certain situations, it is up to you(the player) to analyze said situation and decide whether you should fit it in on each individual game.

If you are of the opinion that you ALWAYS need just 1 magical build with no room to counterbuild or think about the exact game you are in, more power to you sir.

It wasn't a troll downvote. I don't care what his rating on the guide was or how many people win with it. I voted down the top rated Singed guide on Mobafire looong ago for the same reasons.

I will never agree with a Singed build that doesn't have Rylai's as core.

It's his best item by leagues and bounds. It's troubling to me that you even mention skipping it because then people will chase you and die in your poison.

1; Slowing poison helps winning teamfights. You won't need to worry about your opponents following you through poison to die if you protected your team during a fight via slows, and you ace them. This is just flawed logic and bad tanking. Build for the team, not for kills. (Can't use damage as an excuse because it adds the same amount of damage as the RoA you have listed as core. Tankyness? Even though RoA offers 800 HP end game due to his passive, when you buy RoA it's not much more HP than Rylai's, and over the course of a game does increase slightly but not enough to justify it's purchase.)

2; Your opponents chase you through your poison? They must be really bad if they do that at a level of health that will actually cause them to die. This is not an insult, so pleas don't mistake it to be one; if your opponents are chasing Singed through poison and dieing, then your opponents are not competitive level opponents. You won't need Rylai's to stop people from chasing you when you're up against players who are good enough to just stop chasing you on your own.

You should never itemize PLANNING for your opponents to fail. It's just bad building.

If I was gonna do that, I'd build full damage and no survivability on all my carries, I would never ward because my opponents aren't gonna do anything right anyway. Hell, I might as well just AFK in base and wait for them to surrender.

This is why I downvoted. Because I feel so strongly that Rylai's is a core item on Singed, that for it not to be a core item in the build, I will auto downvote.

The rest of the guide was good and fairly well written etc, but it doesn't matter to me because the build is depending on the failure of your opponents, which you'll get abused for later.

In fact I carried my team against a Singed last night in a game we'd have surely lost if he had just bought Rylai's. It was close, but he was unable to tank us (He himself was invincible. He was a super tanky guy, but he couldn't stop us from doing what we wanted to do, = couldn't tank us. Tanking is not just being tanky.) and I was Olaf so I just walked through their disables and then there was nothing to disable me by the time my ult ran off. If he had slowing poison, I would have died right after my ult ran off, but he didn't and we aced them and won.

GG, no Rylai's, real bad. The Rylai's is not for Singed, he's invincible anyway, it's for your team who is not invincible and needs their tank to be CC'ing to protect them.

I won't change my vote unless Rylai's is a core item.

+1. sorry for the troll downvote. i've seen this build win like crazy, and taking heal on Singed, especially at higher levels, really ticks people off-it's even made some people ragequit after thinking they could get him to then die from poison. the items work great, the masteries are the best for singed, and the playstyle is great! wish i could vote up a few times!!! you got my next dozen votes.