Meki Pendant vs. Dorans

[quote=PotatisFarfar]But you can build ur crystal into a cataclyst...[/quote]

[quote=Searz]Yea, but if we're not thinking about which item we're building Meki is better. But yea, Crystal->Catalyst is a better start than Meki->Tear/Morello for most casters.[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn]I find Tear to be a lackluster item on most AP carries nowadays. AA in general seems to fall short to RoA on most champions, and even the spam-heavy ones like Zilean/Karthus/Cassiopeia can sometimes be better off going for early RoA.[/quote]

[quote=Xenasis][quote=Searz] Meki+2pots is fine if you're going for an early Tear, but [[Boots of Speed]]+3pots or [[Doran's Ring]] are better in most cases. @Potatis Not really. It takes 2.4min for Meki to give more mana. [/quote] This kind of sums it up. Problem is that Tear is only REALLY viable on Karthus, barely viable on a couple of other champions (and in 99.9% of cases, RoA is better) - so I don't see why you'd want it.[/quote]

[quote=Illuvitarian]Yea cept you can bold archangels much faster if you spam for cs and want a decent harass[/quote]

[quote=Xenasis][quote=Illuvitarian] Yea cept you can bold archangels much faster if you spam for cs and want a decent harass [/quote] As Karthus should be doing anyway[/quote]

[quote=TheJohn]Cassiopeia doesnt need AA because her passive does the dirty job, so you can just get mana. But many champions have to spam skills, and RoA is kinda meh since it doesnt have regen. Both will give AP anyway, theres no superior. Its all about viability.[/quote]

[quote=Xenasis][quote=TheJohn] Cassiopeia doesnt need AA because her passive does the dirty job, so you can just get mana. But many champions have to spam skills, and RoA is kinda meh since it doesnt have regen. [/quote] The passive of it does give regen - in the levels where you need it anyway. At level 18, regen isn't really all that good, especially if you opted into MP5/level yellows.[/quote]

[quote=AbbaPanda]It depends on who I'm playing. To be honest, when I play AP Gragus, I get two or three Doran's Rings, simply because I'd rather have them than build a RoA, so I can go straight into my Deathcap and go from there. But while I was recently watching the MLG pro championships, one of the announcers had mentioned that he notices European players starting with Doran's Rings on their casters, while American players usually start with a Meki Pendant and a Health Potion.[/quote]