A New Champion Approaches - Riven, the Exile

[quote=NicknameMy]Final Riven OP! xD. But I think, Riven doesn't fit into any metagame and that's why she can't be played.[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport][quote=Caladar] True damage is neither magical nor physical, so you can't count it as either. [/quote] True damage is counted as magic damage under statistics. Even if it wasn't, it can't be counted as physical damage, so Olaf and Vayne do not count as pure AD. I did not realize [[Urgot]] dealt only physical damage. So Riven is the 3rd, not the 5th. True damage cannot be counted as AD.[/quote]

[quote=Caladar][quote=JunSupport] [quote=Caladar] True damage is neither magical nor physical, so you can't count it as either. [/quote] True damage is countered as magic damage under statistics. Even if it wasn't, it can't be counted as physical damage, so Olaf and Vayne do not count as pure AD. I did not realize [[Urgot]] dealt only physical damage. So Riven is the 3rd, not the 5th. True damage cannot be counted as AD. [/quote] Take it up with the wikia crew then, because I think they're mostly referring to the scalings and not the types of damage a character does. If I go according to their principal, exempting the fact that they also deal "magical true damage", then she is/could be the 5th. Source : http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Talon_the_Blade%27s_Shadow/SkinsTrivia 3rd point under trivia.[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=JunSupport] True damage is countered as magic damage under statistics.[/quote] Huh? True damage can't be countered..[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]I think he meant counted[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]^ Yes. Counted** Fixed. @Caladar: You're using wiki? Hahaha... Oh god, wow... When's the last time I had to deal with wiki... lol Please understand that anyone can go on wiki and force their opinion so long as they have SOME credible evidence to support their statements. I could go on there and change all those statements right now if I wanted to, and so long as I explained myself in the discussion, it's highly likely the change would not be contested. Wiki is not a reliable database besides for historical purposes, and even then it can be rather questionable due to the public editing privileges. Try thinking for yourself. Look at the statement carefully: -True damage =/= Physical damage. -You cannot exempt the fact they deal true damage. Therefore, Olaf and Vayne don't count as pure AD/physical damage champions. I think that's simple enough to accept.[/quote]

[quote=Caladar][quote=JunSupport] ^ Yes. Counted** Fixed. @Caladar: You're using wiki? Hahaha... Oh god, wow... When's the last time I had to deal with wiki... lol Please understand that anyone can go on wiki and force their opinion so long as they have SOME credible evidence to support their statements. I could go on there and change all those statements right now if I wanted to, and so long as I explained myself in the discussion, it's highly likely the change would not be contested. Wiki is not a reliable database besides for historical purposes, and even then it can be rather questionable due to the public editing privileges. Try thinking for yourself. Look at the statement carefully: -True damage =/= Physical damage. -You cannot exempt the fact they deal true damage. Therefore, Olaf and Vayne don't count as pure AD/physical damage champions. I think that's simple enough to accept. [/quote] So the fact that they deal mainly physical damage as their main source of threat isn't valued enough to grant them status of (pure) AD Champions? Anyways, wikia is a good source of information to quickly gain some knownledge about scalings, type of damage, duration, and range a champion has without having to play them through and through. It's helped me counter and deal with plenty of annoying champions, more so then MOBAFire has up until now.[/quote]

[quote=Searz]They may not have ONLY physical damage, but true damage is neutral so I would count them as pure AD anyway.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Ehm, I think you quoted it wrong. [quote=wiki]Talon is the fifth champion that deals no magic damage, along with [[Olaf]], [[Urgot]], [[Vayne]], and [[Tryndamere]].[/quote] [quote=JunSupport]The only pure AD champion live right now is [[Talon]].[/quote] That is right! [quote=Caladar]And yet another pure AD Champ joins the league, that makes number 6.[/quote] [quote=JunSupport]Any magic or true damage means they're not pure. True damage is counted as unmitigated magic damage. True damage is counted as magic damage under statistics.[/quote] That is wrong! Got it now? xD.[/quote]