which of these is appling first; flat mag penet...

[quote=hasoli]hey guys. this is not really a theory, but a theorytical question :P what if i have 40 flat magic penetration ( Haunting Guise + Sorcerer's Shoes ), 20 flat magic reduction ( Abyssal Scepter ) and my opponent has 40 magic resistance. what will his new magic resistance? 0 or -20? which of these is appling first; flat mag penet or flat mag reduc. ?[/quote]

[quote=theBMB]-20 and the order that they apply in doesn't matter since it's all flat. If you had 40% penetration from [[void staff]] i believe the percent penetration applies first, not sure though.[/quote]

[quote=hasoli]actually, in wikias, there is an info about that. i must have been blind or sth :D "Magic penetration and magic resistance reduction are applied in the following order: Percentage Magic Resistance Reduction Flat Magic Resistance Reduction Flat Magic Penetration Percentage Magic Penetration" http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Magic_Penetration so, with this information i can say that the answer of my question is "0". because flat magi reduction makes my opponents mag res 20, and just one of my magic penet. items makes that value 0. no further. that means, my second magic penetration is useless. :( thanks for responding.[/quote]

[quote=PEBETON]NO, Im pretty sure is: Percet MR Reduction Percet MR Penetration Flar MR Reduction Flat MR Penetration[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]It is like hasoli said. "Percentage Magic Resistance Reduction Flat Magic Resistance Reduction Flat Magic Penetration Percentage Magic Penetration" Right Answer is 0.[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=NicknameMy] It is like hasoli said. "Percentage Magic Resistance Reduction Flat Magic Resistance Reduction Flat Magic Penetration Percentage Magic Penetration" Right Answer is 0.[/quote] Exactly.[/quote]

[quote=Xenasis]^ That. Sucks that % MPen is applied last, but hey, it would be super duper OP it if wasn't, I guess.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]PEBETON is wrong. Wikia has it correct, the way that hasoli posted it.[/quote]

[quote=theBMB]I coulda swore reading somewhere that negative mr was possible.[/quote]

[quote=Mazuran][quote=theBMB] I coulda swore reading somewhere that negative mr was possible. [/quote] It is with an MRes reducing debuff, such as Malady, Starcall, or Tormented Soil.[/quote]