What do you think of...

[quote=TheJohn]The idea here is to know what do you guys think of some champions that we almost never see. Here's the list: [[Trundle]] [[Karma]] [[Yorick]] [[Janna]] [[Sivir]] [[Cassiopeia]] [[Galio]] [[Maokai]] [[Skarner]] [[Orianna]] [[Swain]] [[Twisted Fate]] [[Twitch]] [[Zilean]] I'm not going to say [[Evelynn]] because she is so bad now that no one wants to play as her anymore (bring her stun back at least RIOT). If you have more suggestions, say it and I'll add them.[/quote]

[quote=kaas]I always play Trundle when I go jungle. Janna is a quite common support for me to see aswel. karma and Yorik however don't show up that much. To add to the list (from my experience): Zilean Skarner (i think I never had a game with a Skarner in it, did see it at my brothers games, but not in mine) There are some more which I don't see now alot, but they were played some times ago so I didn't mention them[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]All 4 are excellent.[/quote]

[quote=IceCreamy]You can add to the list: [[Sivir]] [[Cassiopeia]] [[Evelynn]] [[Galio]] [[Maokai]] [[Orianna]] [[Skarner]] [[Swain]] [[Twisted Fate]] [[Twitch]] It's been months since I have seen them ingame regularly, I see those maybe 1-2 each month (and I think I play about 60 games).[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Janna? But Janna is like...the best support in the game.[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]skarner is ok in summoners rift, but he is so amazing in the small fights of dominion. with the right build he is a crazy powerhouse with good mobility.[/quote]

[quote=Xenasis]Janna's the second best support in the game right now, after Alistar Trundle's one of the best junglers/solo tops in the game right now Yorick's one of the best solo tops in the game right now Karma's meh[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Yorick's good enough at solo top anyway >:P[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][[Trundle]] - Strong with kite teams. Might be a sleeper, can disable tanky-dps quite well while being a tanky dps [[Karma]] - good Karma's can be quite intimidating, however, most people don't have the desire or patience to pick her up. Kind of in a strange position at the moment, not exactly and AP carry, not really a competitive support [[Yorick]] - very strong up top against virtually anyone, can be countered by sustain champions such as Nasus and Tryndamere who are more focused on farm than truly dominating their lane [[Janna]] - very high skill cap for a lot of players, A decent support now that all others were nerfed, However, her support is different that that of say Soraka and Sona. Much more defensive and can't really dish out the same damage that Sona and Soraka can as of now. [[Sivir]] - very weak, funky passive, basically a suicide/backdoor pick. She gets outclassed by virtually every other AD aside from maybe [[Miss Fortune]]. [[Cassiopeia]] - Similar to that of Anivia where she requires a lot of dedication and a high skill cap. Very good in the laning phases, not only is hers strong but she can deny very well. Probably a sleeper OP, although any nerf to her would probably wreck her and bring her back to a useless state. She's good where she is now. [[Galio]] - A good pick if the enemy has a strong AP caster at mid. He counters [[Brand]] and [[Cassiopeia]] extremely well. His Bulwark makes DoT's such as ignite and poisons actually heal himself. He can shut down a lot of champions, and there aren't any obvious counters to him that I can think of at the moment. [[Maokai]] - Strong in duo-lanes with some champions, Tristana and Ashe come to mind. His AP ratio's are pretty good giving him an offensive edge over other tanks. He seems to be weaker than pure-tank picks, but his ult is very strong in countering AoE teams. [[Skarner]] - Absolutely terrible, Can jungle efficiently, but can't gank. Can't real lane other than solo top vs. a very select group of champions. Ult has subpar range, really doesn't do anything well. [[Orianna]] - despite the nerfs she's really strong and provides a lot for her team. She can counter come champions well, especially champions with long cooldowns and high burst, brand comes to mind. She can shield herself frequently to block the harass [[Swain]] - Still a good pick, high skill cap, his kit synergizes well. Ignite shuts him down even moreso now that he can't feed of minions. Building him tanky still seems the way to go. Not as strong an AP carry as others, but strong DPS (sustained damage) when in range. [[Twisted Fate]] - AP Tf isn't that strong, outclassed by a lot of champions. AD TF is also weak in comparison to other carries. His ult is pathetic compared to what it used to be. The range should be increased significantly to make him somewhat viable again . [[Twitch]] - he isn't as bad as people think. But his ult is pretty pathetic, range is rather weak for a ranged AD. Not exactly the most survivable, infact his about as frail as TF if not more. Nothing really to say, changes hopefully in store if riot ever decides to take the stealth changes seriously [[Zilean]] - A lot stronger than I originally thought, he can have his ult up for virtually every teamfight with the add of his rewind ability. Time Bombs can hurt and the speed boost/decrease is instrumental. Still don't think he's as strong as other true supports. He is similar to Janna in terms of the utility he provides.[/quote]

[quote=caucheka][img]http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6271/skardom3.png[/img] play. skarner. on. dominion. and. win. games.[/quote]