Tenacity Items

[quote=Embracing]Yeah they are good mid and early, but the problem lies in late game, where these items fall off with stats. I'd say something along Duff's lines of building them into something more. That would be a LOT better. But then again no overbuffed stats lol. Ranged AD carry with tenacity - that's nasty. And @ The pentakill. You really shouldn't be needing any tenacity like that. Getting another item would give a ton more stats with that kind of a late game. You're wasting an item slot, well, unless you're diving in the enemies, which is what you shouldn't be doing. How does a ranked game last that long anyways? Oh wait nvm it's still pre-season.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime][quote=IceCreamy] I agree, but there should be some sort of limit then. Kinda sucks having a [[Jax]] with 100 % dodge chance xD [/quote] Didn't see this before. Make the dodge on the item unique, that's easy enough. 5% dodge would be enough, if you have dodge runes and stuff. You could easily make an item like this, for example. Keep in mind, this was just thrown together, not really considering potential balance issues when combined with other items that already exist such as Black Cleaver, it's just an example; [b]Noxian Boneblade[/b]; Brutalizer (1337) + Stinger (1140) + Recipe cost (523); (3000 total cost); 30 AD 50% AS Unique Passive; 20 ArP 20% CDR 5% dodge. Unique active; Dodge and armor pen bonuses are doubled for 6 seconds. (60 second CD) Something like that would be reasonable, and a realistic buy on several champions who might want dodge. 5% dodge isn't going to break the game, but it would be a nice purchase when you're concerned about Vayne 3 shotting you. I think Riot thinks in big blocky numbers too often, when realistically that 5% along with dodge runes and masteries would make a substantial, albeit potentially subtle difference.[/quote]

[quote=animorte]I think the cheap items with questionable stats are quite exceptional. It gives you the ability to get what you need before it's too late. Early and Mid-game will both always be there. Late is never guaranteed. Honestly, how often do you make 16000 gold in one game to finish your entire build. And if you do, you make a lot more money as the game goes on because it's probably a really good, close game... and you have nothing to do with the rest of your money. I don't get Doran's because they are far too easy to replace, but I will gladly grab something that gives me the 2 stats I need more than anything else as opposed to slowly building up an item that gives me only one of each stat for the same price and I can't get the full effect until 2.5x the price and time. With the final big item usually comes an extra, generally useless stat or two. That way I can start paying attention to more defensive items or other specific stats if necessary.[/quote]

[quote=marisi]Dragon's fire gland kindlegem + moonflair spellblade + recipe cost 600 = 2650 total cost [color=#ff8000]60 AP + 40 tenacity + 300 health Unique passive: reduces cooldowns with 10% Active: deals damage and slows the attack speed of target.[/color] (Active just like the dragon's attack in SR. And grants tenacity since the dragon is immume to cc)[/quote]

[quote=Rozsud3k][quote=DuffTime] I just wish I could get dodge somewhere other than Ninja Tabi :/ [/quote] [[Jax]], [[Greater Seal of Evasion]]/[[Greater Quintessence of Evasion]] :3[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]I've already considered those runes, yers. An item with like 5% dodge like the aforementioned one could be kewlio ^^[/quote]