Tenacity Items

[quote=Embracing]So.. the tenacity items have always been underrated; and they ARE underrated. The stats you get from different type of boots and the tenacity items are just not worth it compared to Merc Treads + a different item. I think they should buff them to make them cost more but have better stats. If they make them overbuffed though, it'd ruin the game. I think they should buff [[Cloak and Dagger]] to something slightly worse than Phantom Dancer. Same for [[Moonflair Spellblade]]. Something around 80 AP? Thoughts?[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Buff for [[Cloak and Dagger]]: [quote=NicknameMy][center][icon=Cloak and Dagger size=64] [h2][color=#0080ff]Cloak and Dagger[/color][/h2][/center] [b]Combination Items:[/b] [[Dagger]](420g), [[cloak of agility]](830g) [b]Combination Cost:[/b] 800g [b]Cost:[/b] 2050g [list] [*][b]Effects[/b] [list] [*]35 Attack Speed [*]25 Critical Strike Chance [*]35 Tenacity [h1]OR:[/h1] [center][icon=Cloak and Dagger size=64] [h2][color=#0080ff]Cloak and Dagger[/color][/h2][/center] [b]Combination Items:[/b] [[Dagger]](420g), [[cloak of agility]](830g) [b]Combination Cost:[/b] 400g [b]Cost:[/b] 1650g [list] [*][b]Effects[/b] [list] [*]20 Attack Speed [*]25 Critical Strike Chance [*]45 Tenacity [/list] [/list][/quote][/quote]

[quote=Dotter]I think the current stats are fine, since it will force the player to choose between mercury's and one of these items, which might be Riot's intention. Tenacity is an insanely strong stat, so the items kinda need to be a bit lackluster to balance it (I guess)[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]I just wish I could get dodge somewhere other than Ninja Tabi :/ Tenacity items should build into something more if you ask me :/ Cloak dagger + brutalizer or pickaxe. Moonflair Spellblade + Haunting guise or amp tome. Eleisa's miracle + mana manipulator (Or something) And that way they might actually have some kind of worthwhile effect late game.[/quote]

[quote=IceCreamy][quote=DuffTime] I just wish I could get dodge somewhere other than Ninja Tabi :/ [/quote] I agree, but there should be some sort of limit then. Kinda sucks having a [[Jax]] with 100 % dodge chance xD And yes, I would like to see a buff in those tenacity items too. Don't forget [[Eleisa's Miracle]] ;) Perhaps for [[Moonflair Spellblade]], one could add a [[Kindlegem]] to make it 50 AP, 12 % CDR and 35 Tenacity for a total cost of around 2000? For [[Cloak and Dagger]] I suggest including a [[Pickaxe]], to add up 30 AD for an extra cost of 1000. Problem with those items is that in late-game, with the other 5 item slots filled, those items just wear off compared to other items. Most items (except for boots and snowball items) cost over 3000 gold, and give stats that are worth it. The current Tenacity items just... aren't worth it, except for [[Mercury's Treads]] of course.[/quote]

[quote=Whated#79092][img]http://i9.aijaa.com/b/00578/8875450.jpg[/img] Spellblade is balanced, got this pentakill today as Kassadin. Around 1400-1500 elo :)[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Ops, penta kill, game broken :P[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Or as I made it, make the tenacity on the 3 items higher than on [[mercury's treads]].^^[/quote]

[quote=Whated#79092]35 tenacity is pretty damn strong already, if they would offer more tenacity for Singed or Irelia it would be so fucking damn OP... It's already pretty damn broken, atleast Irelia is still. But Singed aint so much anymore.[/quote]

[quote=NinjaGinge]I put C&D to great use all the time. For its cost is is a really strong midgame item.[/quote]