Leona Balancing Idea

[quote=Blydden]Okay, [[Leona]]. She's lovable. I like her, my big brother likes her, everybody I know likes [[Leona]]. She's a great tank, has a lot of tankiness and crowd control...but lacks in the damage department...and has no passive. Oh hey, I didn't see you there [[Sunlight]]. What? Your [[Leona's]] passive? Then how come you're so mean and don't help [[Leona]]...[u]AT ALL[/u]?! Oh wait, you do? OH, you help her [i]allies only[/i]. Don't you think that's a bit sad? Yes? Well I have an idea for that that'll fix you, and [[Leona]]. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My [[Sunlight]] Idea: Leona's damaging spells affect the target with Sunlight for 3.5 seconds. When allied champions deal damage to those targets they consume [s]the[/s] [b][i][u]a[/u][/i][/b] Sunlight debuff to deal additional magic damage. Bonus damage is 20/35/50/65/80/95/110/125/140 (upgrades every 2 levels). [b][i][u]Sunlight stacks up to 3 times. When Sunlight has 3 stacks, the Sunlight stacks are consumed, dealing bonus magic damage. This bonus magic damage is 60/105/150/195/240/285/330/375/420 (upgrades every 2 levels).[/u][/i][/b] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This will fix [[Leona]] to deal enough damage to match up to other tanks like [[Cho'Gath]], [[Singed]], [[Amumu]], [[Rammus]], etc.. In addition, this will give her more versatility, such as being able to take a solo lane as perhaps a tanky AP. While she'll never be OP like, say, AP [[Alistar]], she'll be in a good place I believe. This will also help her as her traditional role as a bottom lane support, being able to support an aggressive AD carry with strong harassment even further, with [[Sunlight]] not overriding itself as a debuff.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]I think Leona's current passive is pretty great in a big team fight. Helping your allies helps your team win. If helping your allies didn't work, then supports would never be played.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]Honestly, that would be worse as a passive. She has to use almost all her abilities to pop the passive. Not good. You know what would fix it? Higher base damage. Having her be able to trigger it, [b]for half or lower damage.[/b] Also, giving it a ratio like HP/Armor/AP would give her incentive to build some. Right now, she's straight tank because of how low her sustained damage is. Building AP on her means almost nothing ATM. EDIT:Missed that allies could still trigger the mark. I still don't like the changes because it feels like you have to blow your rotation on a single champ to get damage output.[/quote]

[quote=Nethalas]I think if she could trigget the mark against minions, perhaps at a reduced rate, it'll give her viability in other roles.[/quote]

[quote=Searz]Rammus is no better than Leona, lol. I don't believe you have a proper grasp of the game to suggest ways of fixing problems. That being said, I don't dislike this change. It might be a little strong, but the numbers could easily be tweaked.[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=Lugignaf] Honestly, that would be worse as a passive. She has to use almost all her abilities to pop the passive. Not good. You know what would fix it? Higher base damage. Having her be able to trigger it, [b]for half or lower damage.[/b] Also, giving it a ratio like HP/Armor/AP would give her incentive to build some. Right now, she's straight tank because of how low her sustained damage is. Building AP on her means almost nothing ATM. EDIT:Missed that allies could still trigger the mark. I still don't like the changes because it feels like you have to blow your rotation on a single champ to get damage output.[/quote] It's an overall buff to her damage. I don't see how it would make ANYTHING worse. Only problem I see would be that it might be too strong.[/quote]

[quote=Booshido]leona's fine, just takes skill to be good with her, ive seen people support a team and intiate like amzing with her.[/quote]

[quote=Urscythe][quote=Booshido] leona's fine, just takes skill to be good with her, ive seen people support a team and intiate like amzing with her. [/quote] Except where Blitz outperforms her at her own job in nearly every scenario.[/quote]

[quote=Beeswarm17]^ Except for the part where he doesn't. Blitz does not have an AOE stun/slow, he doesn't give his team bonus damage, he doesn't gain 70 armor and MR, and he pulls to him, rather than leona going to them. He's not the same. If you'd compared Leona to Amumu, I'd see your point, but you did the complete opposite.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]I haven't seen many good Leonas. She's just overshadowed by other stronger tanks. Her farm sucks, her damage is fine (for a tank) her ulti is...Meh....Her stun is too short or on too long a CD. As are her other abilities. She's just not as impactful as she is meant to be. Chogath and Singed are EXTREMELY good tanks because THEY HAVE NO ISSUES FARMING. Shen got a HUGE set of buffs that have made him competative once again. Changing Leona's passive wouldn't do anything magical to her. You're better off buffing her other weaknesses....Like an inability to farm well, mana costs still a bit too high, among other things.[/quote]