Counterpick for Kass.

[quote=C4k3CooKieZ]Then you guys haven't met a good AP sion Don't shield before Kass use his Q. When he Q you better be on your toes and press W right away. When your shield is on CD don't go near him. And don't go into auto attack Kass before he use his Q. Then he'll just Q you before you can shield it[/quote]

[quote=Darcurse]ofc shield the moment hes aiming at you. But, Shield and Stun ? What are you? Joking or just some fanboy? Maybe if you notices that Kass is going to Sphere you 2 sec beforehand. But: If youre to early, he´ll stop waiting for you shield to expire. Against some decent Kass youll easily get your shield up to def you ofc, but afterwards Spheres gonna get you -> no stun. Sions not one of the worst pick against Kass, though. Thx to him being a tad too beefy you will/can push kass early, since you get his creeps if he cant break your shield. You wont get him, he wont get you. But you are going to run out of Mana first if you try to block his Sphere every time, and by the time you reach lvl 6 he will definitely get the upper hand making you unable to kill him (Maybe harass forcing him back sometimes) but he can easily rift your shield down with some of your HP + if hes fast enough your shield wont make it in time. Like i said: Your main dmg on him will be your stun + 1-2 autohit.(And ofc thats not gonna get maxed first)[/quote]

[quote=C4k3CooKieZ]Not sure if serious or... And you don't need to kill him dude - zoning > anything else You seriously don't know what you're talking about... go play ranked :/ Most will agree with me that Sion beats Kass Edit: Don't try to stun him, it's a waste of mana[/quote]

[quote=ZioSerpe][[Cassiopeia]] Before lvl 6 she can zone karth hard with [[noxious blast]] after that her damage is sustained unlike other casters and she's mostly build tanky caster so no biggie. She can also kill caster minions at lvl 2 just with 2 spells, while staying far from kass Other viable options in the AP caster department are [[Morgana]] freely farm, just need to use FoW and gank other lanes at lvl 6 [[Malzahar]] farming with [[malefic visions]] is as easy as it gets, and lvl 6 combo can kill kass after a riftwalk [[Vladimir]] can [[sanguine pool]] the [[null sphere]] and sustain better than Kass, not sure on this last one, but I see this happen a lot.[/quote]

[quote=Darcurse][quote=C4k3CooKieZ] ... And you don't need to kill him dude - zoning > anything else ... Edit: Don't try to stun him, it's a waste of mana [/quote] [quote=Darcurse] Sions not one of the worst pick against Kass, though. Thx to him being a tad too beefy you will/can push kass early, since you get his creeps if he cant break your shield. You wont get him, he wont get you. ... But you are going to run out of Mana first if you try to block his Sphere every time, and by the time you reach lvl 6 he will definitely get the upper hand making you unable to kill him (Maybe harass forcing him back sometimes) but he can easily rift your shield down with some of your HP + if hes fast enough your shield wont make it in time. ... Like i said: Your main dmg on him will be your stun + 1-2 autohit.(And ofc thats not gonna get maxed first) [/quote] We agree on the first part. Also, never said stun MUST be used against him. Only said, that you wont harm him except if you stun him, in return: he´ll break your bubble and also deal you around the same amount of dmg using his rift,sphere,wave on you. For the outzoning - second part - I agree that youll outzone him early at least.[/quote]

[quote=Crazy Smurf]Vlad gets fucked by Kassa. No matter how good you are, with vlad.[/quote]

[quote=Queso][quote=Darcurse] AP? Only could think of sb like Vlad. Since Kassa´s not only anti-Ap but AP himself any champ that counters harass that is hold back by CD is fine even he´s a caster i guess. [/quote] No, this is just flat out wrong. Vlad spams skills to normally gain an advantage, but against Kassadin you're just helping him charge his E way more often. The silence and sheer damage Kass puts out destroys Vlad. Also the Kass passive magic damage mitigation.[/quote]

[quote=ZioSerpe][quote=Queso] [quote=Darcurse] AP? Only could think of sb like Vlad. Since Kassa´s not only anti-Ap but AP himself any champ that counters harass that is hold back by CD is fine even he´s a caster i guess. [/quote] No, this is just flat out wrong. Vlad spams skills to normally gain an advantage, but against Kassadin you're just helping him charge his E way more often. The silence and sheer damage Kass puts out destroys Vlad. Also the Kass passive magic damage mitigation. [/quote] yeah I guess... it's a pity kass doesn't have mana. OH WAIT What you people seem not to get here is, to beat kass you need either one of these prerogatives: -be able to farm while staying safe from his harrass -outsustain him if people spamming skills was a problem than morg and cassio would be awfull against him. Vlad can outsustain his harrass at early lvls and when kass starts not being mana hungry he's already able to heal any huge kass harrass.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Sion.[/quote]

[quote=Restrictnine#5232]Galio. Morgana. Anyone that can shield low burst for at least 6 levels. someone that has lots of heals. Kassadin still isnt as good as everyone thinks he is.[/quote]