So Graves guides are out...

[quote=ZioSerpe]And the fail could start I was checking them to see if there was a chance to find an actual good one to mak it get to the top and see less greaves failure around. The smartest I've seen features the Trinity way. Not good but at least less obvious, point is, it's an irrelistic build. my question is: AmI gonna wait for long to see a guide made by someone that is closer to the homo sapiens in terms of evolution? Building graves is no quantum physics, and he's very cost efficent. Yet everyone just splats expensive items around, says build is teh pwn, write a short gameplay paragraph that is worth toilet paper and a bunch of low lvl nooblets upvote them. Idk I'm pissed off tonight[/quote]

[quote=Adonikam]The people who make good guides won't start until they actually know the champion. Just give it some time. Also you could look at the top Ashe guide and build the exact same on Graves l0l[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]Most of them are generic garbage. The rest of them are personalized fancy-looking garbage. Which is odd, considering Graves is a basic AD carry. I'd give it about 2 weeks. One for Shyvana to be released, another for the free-week people to better understand him.[/quote]

[quote=omagma]Most champions get badly written guides soon after set champions release. People don't take the time to properly learn and understand a new champ before they start writing there guide. They think its "first come first served" But i might do a Graves guide at some point if i find the time.[/quote]

[quote=ZioSerpe]Started writing mine, will take a while since I really didn't want to in the end, just tired of the failure. I'll just use it to test different layouts waiting for mah foxy lady to be released as she's my goal for next guide.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Just go heavy AD and potentially some tankyness. I haven't tried him but as long as his base AS is decent and his abilities have decent scaling then higher AD values and maybe one attack speed item is probly going to be ideal. Frozen mallet could be decent, as I said, never tried.[/quote]

[quote=ZioSerpe][quote=DuffTime] Just go heavy AD and potentially some tankyness. I haven't tried him but as long as his base AS is decent and his abilities have decent scaling then higher AD values and maybe one attack speed item is probly going to be ideal. Frozen mallet could be decent, as I said, never tried. [/quote] after core best items are wit's end and atmas.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]Honestly the "proper" timing of releasing a guide seems to depend on the popularity of the champion in the higher echelons of ELO. A champion like Graves is a countender for being tournament viable IMO. The build variety isn't going to be anything spectacular. He's an AD carry....Like any other AD carry, he has very little variety to make building X AD item on him more viable than any other....I literally stacked Blood Thirsters on him and an LW....Had no trouble wrecking face. Does it mean that's a better build than something else? No, but he's an AD carry...Build AD items+QSS or Mercs...Profit.[/quote]

[quote=Rozsud3k][quote=ZioSerpe] And the fail could start I was checking them to see if there was a chance to find an actual good one to make it get to the top and see less [[Graves]] failure around. The smartest I've seen features the Trinity way. Not good but at least less obvious, point is, it's an unrealistic build. my question is: Am I gonna wait for long to see a guide made by someone that is closer to the homo sapiens in terms of evolution? Building graves is no quantum physics, and he's very cost efficient. Yet everyone just splats expensive items around, says build is teh pwn, write a short gameplay paragraph that is worth toilet paper and a bunch of low lvl nooblets upvote them. Idk I'm pissed off tonight [/quote] So you think most of the [[Graves]] guide should go to the grave(s)?[/quote]

[quote=Sacull_Kinslayer]As OP as Graves is you could probably build him AP and still do fine with him.... ;) Standard ranged AD kit works on him.[/quote]