Overall this initial preview is nice.
Shaco is one of those champs you have to tweak slowly, otherwise you'll find him dominating the game like a fed Akali. I doubt the damage reduction will overly affect his jungle with JiTB, the damage reduction shouldn't affect either viable route. Then again haven't jungled Shaco in a long time.
Graves' nerf should have been to the AS bonus from
Quickdraw as well as his
Buckshot damage imo not his passive, although what I've heard from people is his passive is a bit on the strong side late game.
Wu-Kong QoL changes, nothing more than that really.
Olaf ulti change is meh. I preffer it the way it is. Lasts a whole fight, the suggested "Alistaresque" activation "cleanse" is kind of silly to me. It's not really needed IMO, but w/e QoL change here too.
Still missing a
Veigar mana friendly spell cost overhaul IMO.
And a set of
Skarner rebalances.
As I said, overall not too bad ^_^
Shaco is one of those champs you have to tweak slowly, otherwise you'll find him dominating the game like a fed Akali. I doubt the damage reduction will overly affect his jungle with JiTB, the damage reduction shouldn't affect either viable route. Then again haven't jungled Shaco in a long time.
Graves' nerf should have been to the AS bonus from


Wu-Kong QoL changes, nothing more than that really.
Olaf ulti change is meh. I preffer it the way it is. Lasts a whole fight, the suggested "Alistaresque" activation "cleanse" is kind of silly to me. It's not really needed IMO, but w/e QoL change here too.
Still missing a

And a set of

As I said, overall not too bad ^_^
I think the biggest problem with Graves' passive is that it counts attacking minions as being in combat. So he can basically can keep his passive at high stacks most of the time he's in lane, massively reducing any harass damage he takes and making it virtually risk-free for him to harass.
IMO it should only be getting high stacks when he's in a sustained fight with other champions.
It's not so bad on it's own, but when coupled with a massive AoE nuke, an AoE 'blind', a blink + massive AS steroid and another even stronger AoE nuke it adds up to a damn strong champion. Especially since from what I've seen a complete moron can figure out how to play him without much trouble.
IMO it should only be getting high stacks when he's in a sustained fight with other champions.
It's not so bad on it's own, but when coupled with a massive AoE nuke, an AoE 'blind', a blink + massive AS steroid and another even stronger AoE nuke it adds up to a damn strong champion. Especially since from what I've seen a complete moron can figure out how to play him without much trouble.
That's why I said it should only be getting HIGH stacks when he's in a fight vs other champions. Something like what you said was what I was thinking. Getting half a stack seems to be a little odd though.
I can't really think of a better way to do it, I'm no designer. :P
I can't really think of a better way to do it, I'm no designer. :P
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