When it comes to Shyvana...

[quote=ExamplePrime]Am I the only one that thinks her W is the only reason to play her? The rest of her kit seems very weak and falls off late game with very little scaling to keep her spells effective. As it is her Burnout-ring-of-fire-wtf-soo-much-dmg-W spell is very strong and is a vital part of her kit. However when its on cooldown you suddenly lose a lot of your 'firepower' (pardon the pun). This comes from her Q just being an auto-attack reseter which is nice but since you don't build much damage on her it doesn't get that strong whilst her E ability - Flame Breath - he is one of the worst skill shot nukes in the game with rather odd and bad scaling. As it is I think her Ultimate is amazing its just everything else seems lackluster P.S. I know I should have the spells with little pics etc. I just can't be bothered to put it all in just now, might edit later[/quote]

[quote=ZioSerpe]pretty much agreed[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]build her hybrid. rage blade gunblade wits end. q at max is an auto hit resetter that makes you hit twice and deals on hits. crits lifesteal wits end sheen procs etc..[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]Honestly, W is not your man part. It fits well with the kit but it's not crucial. Her burst damage is amazing though.[/quote]

[quote=BunkerBob]W is great for the stack, but I love that Q though.[/quote]

[quote=Joobieo#41288]Shes prob going to get a buff , because as of right now shes a little UP.[/quote]

[quote=Beeswarm17]Not when the pros are calling her OP. Her Q is an AA reset that deals double your damage at rank 5. Three hits in the span of <2 seconds. Add [[Sheen]] for instant stupid damage. Madreds is really nice, too (double proc THAT). Also, TBC will proc twice, and so will YGB. It's complete nonsense, and it can do amazing damage. The speed of the attack also scales with AS, and the passive makes it more spam-able. Add in that it will apply on-hit to everyone in a wave in front of her when in dragon form. How do you [i]ignore[/i] that?[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]stop fucking calling every champion on release op. shyvana is good right now.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]Her passive is like Xerath's. It might as well not be there. Change the passive to like, an AD increase based on fury and tack the bonuses onto the skill initially, then we'll talk about OP status.[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]what are you talking about? her passive is god tier. auto attacking reduces qs cd to make it fairly spamable triples the duration of w making it nearly always active deals extra damage to those she attacks who are debuffed by e[/quote]