Before. It increases the damage that you do after all the other math from skills is factored in.
Say I'm Lee Sin with 21/9/0 masteries and full
Havoc
. If I hit with Sonic wave and then resonating strike, the extra 1.5% damage increase will be tacked onto resonating strike after the bonus damage for %HP missing and AD scaling ratio, but before armor comes into play.
Say I'm Lee Sin with 21/9/0 masteries and full
Havoc
. If I hit with Sonic wave and then resonating strike, the extra 1.5% damage increase will be tacked onto resonating strike after the bonus damage for %HP missing and AD scaling ratio, but before armor comes into play.
MrNicholas
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Haha, funny thing is that it doesn't matter.
Armor/MR is multiplicative and so is havoc.
The only case it would make a difference in would be if the enemy had Indomitable
, because that's a flat amount of damage reduction.
Armor/MR is multiplicative and so is havoc.
The only case it would make a difference in would be if the enemy had
Indomitable
, because that's a flat amount of damage reduction.
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"I also am Otherkin. Whenever autumn rolls around I can feel my kin-type slowly taking over my body. You must know, I identify as pumpkin. I can control it pretty good most of the time, but when September ends, I just cant hold it in anymore. Whenever Im outside I see my brothers and sisters being chopped into soup, coffee, donuts, cake, drinks, bread - ppl even cut human faces into their skin, making a mockery out of their noble appearance. When I see things like that I cant control my pumpkin urges anymore. My natural instincts kick in. I then sit down motionless, while getting bright orange." - Morgana L
Beeswarm17
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Is Havoc even worth it, though? I mean, even if you are doing 1000 damage (which is pretty insane), 3 points only adds 15 damage. Early on when you're doing 60-100 damage, it's only adding about 1-2 damage.
Is this something worth putting points in?
Is this something worth putting points in?
Beeswarm17
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Lifesteal at least stacks with Doran's Blade and other lifesteal items. It also gets Wriggles back to where it was before it was nerfed.
I just can't see Havoc
actually contributing much.
Doran's Blade and other lifesteal items. It also gets Wriggles back to where it was before it was nerfed.I just can't see
Havoc
actually contributing much.
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