Diesel wrote:
Simple solution:
Make Flash not eat spells.
They don't need to remove it if it didn't breathtakingly just remove spells/ultimates from thin air.
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I agree.
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DEWO wrote:
Also any valid place you got that info from? Link? Screenshot?
It's not 100% confirmed, but it's highly possible.
"Riot has “some what sort of” announced that they have big changes coming up in the next patch and one of the things that has been talked about a lot if the removal of the summoner ability Flash."
If you go on Google and search "riot games removal of flash" you'll find many topics on the LoL forums QQing or supporting this change.
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Im slightly insulted by your comment about Flash JACN.
I play AP Alistar and I use it. I Dont make noob mistakes, I use it for positioning. Nothing is better for Alistar than being able to Flash infron of someone and headbutt them into my team or turret. Flash is not for Noobs.
Champs that I think benefit from Flash are: Shen, Alistar, Annie, hell almost any champ can use this Spell. Its so versatile in so many ways.
I admit that some champs, Ezreal, abuse this spell. Kat and Jax can do it to in conjunction with Shunpo and Leap.
I agree with Kael. Flash is something that you have to adjust to. If they get away, than you did something wrong, Harassed enough to force them back, or made them so nervous that they waste the best escape spell in game.
I understand wanting an aggressing game style, but sometimes Flashing out to escape can intensify game play.
Flash can make or break a team fight, mean the difference between getting or not getting a kill, living or dying, ganking or avoiding the gank, adn so on. Flash is a difficult spell to use since it has so many uses and since it gives in the hands of a great player, it is a dangerous spell.
I think that Riot needs to rethink the removal of Flash. If they want some more aggression, than maybe adding a Buff Summoner Spell. Rally is nice, but I mean something that isnt stationary. A mobile Rally would be nice.
EDIT: For agressive game play, how about a
like ability? That would shake things up. I mean with some spells it be a lil OP, but Flash/Ghost is OP whe it comes to mobility and defense. But I think that would be a great way to make game play more agressive.
I play AP Alistar and I use it. I Dont make noob mistakes, I use it for positioning. Nothing is better for Alistar than being able to Flash infron of someone and headbutt them into my team or turret. Flash is not for Noobs.
Champs that I think benefit from Flash are: Shen, Alistar, Annie, hell almost any champ can use this Spell. Its so versatile in so many ways.
I admit that some champs, Ezreal, abuse this spell. Kat and Jax can do it to in conjunction with Shunpo and Leap.
I agree with Kael. Flash is something that you have to adjust to. If they get away, than you did something wrong, Harassed enough to force them back, or made them so nervous that they waste the best escape spell in game.
I understand wanting an aggressing game style, but sometimes Flashing out to escape can intensify game play.
Flash can make or break a team fight, mean the difference between getting or not getting a kill, living or dying, ganking or avoiding the gank, adn so on. Flash is a difficult spell to use since it has so many uses and since it gives in the hands of a great player, it is a dangerous spell.
I think that Riot needs to rethink the removal of Flash. If they want some more aggression, than maybe adding a Buff Summoner Spell. Rally is nice, but I mean something that isnt stationary. A mobile Rally would be nice.
EDIT: For agressive game play, how about a
like ability? That would shake things up. I mean with some spells it be a lil OP, but Flash/Ghost is OP whe it comes to mobility and defense. But I think that would be a great way to make game play more agressive.
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I personally am with scrax as well, i love flash, it doesnt help a good player get into good positioning, it helps me:
- Avoid CC Skillshots (should they get through my tanks)
- Flash my carry away from a flank (not bad positioning if it's an unexpected warwick)
- Get you over a wall for escape
saying flash is bad is like arguing stacking items. If you dont like it, dont use it, but dont hate on others who can use it much more effectively than you
- Avoid CC Skillshots (should they get through my tanks)
- Flash my carry away from a flank (not bad positioning if it's an unexpected warwick)
- Get you over a wall for escape
saying flash is bad is like arguing stacking items. If you dont like it, dont use it, but dont hate on others who can use it much more effectively than you
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Chaotic Bliss wrote:
Im slightly insulted by your comment about Flash JACN.
I play AP Alistar and I use it. I Dont make noob mistakes, I use it for positioning. Nothing is better for Alistar than being able to Flash infron of someone and headbutt them into my team or turret. Flash is not for Noobs.
Champs that I think benefit from Flash are: Shen, Alistar, Annie, hell almost any champ can use this Spell. Its so versatile in so many ways.
I admit that some champs, Ezreal, abuse this spell. Kat and Jax can do it to in conjunction with Shunpo and Leap.
I agree with Kael. Flash is something that you have to adjust to. If they get away, than you did something wrong, Harassed enough to force them back, or made them so nervous that they waste the best escape spell in game.
I understand wanting an aggressing game style, but sometimes Flashing out to escape can intensify game play.
Flash can make or break a team fight, mean the difference between getting or not getting a kill, living or dying, ganking or avoiding the gank, adn so on. Flash is a difficult spell to use since it has so many uses and since it gives in the hands of a great player, it is a dangerous spell.
I think that Riot needs to rethink the removal of Flash. If they want some more aggression, than maybe adding a Buff Summoner Spell. Rally is nice, but I mean something that isnt stationary. A mobile Rally would be nice.
I did not mean to insult you, you have my apologies. The way you use it is one thing though, the way others use it by abusing it to make an escape from a gank they never needed to be in is another.
You see, when you get ganked, use Flash to get away, you feel you have accomplished something. Well, you haven't, the only thing you have shown anyone is that you lack Map Awareness, and proper positioning. Next time that gank rolls around and Flash is on cooldown, grats you just fed the team because you formed a bad habit.
If you use Flash PURELY for it's Offensive value, more power to you mate I'm impressed.
If you use Flash PURELY for it's "Oh **** I screwed up bad, time to hit my panic button", then you need to not play Ranked.
That's all I'm saying. Flash forms really bad habits in players, it doesn't promote good play or proper Map Awareness. You have to have these things to preform at the higher levels. Just yesterday I saw a whole team with Flash, and everytime they had to use it, it was because of them walking in like they were invincible, and flashing away when they found out they weren't. The next time they did it, we proved to them that they weren't.
I agree with you JACN that Flash shouldnt be used to avoid a gank.
I do think that Flash does have defensive purposes. Avoiding a gank because you have poor map awareness, is bad use of Flash. Now if a team fight breaks out and there is a possiblity of an ACE, than Flash is great to have yes?
Flash being used defensively, thru walls, creep waves, team mates, dodging skill shots, etc are all great ways to use Flash.
But like you said, using it just to avoid a gank isnt smart. Its a High Skill Level Summoner Spell IMO. Ranked player with Flash know what they are doing. Or they should.
I do think that Flash does have defensive purposes. Avoiding a gank because you have poor map awareness, is bad use of Flash. Now if a team fight breaks out and there is a possiblity of an ACE, than Flash is great to have yes?
Flash being used defensively, thru walls, creep waves, team mates, dodging skill shots, etc are all great ways to use Flash.
But like you said, using it just to avoid a gank isnt smart. Its a High Skill Level Summoner Spell IMO. Ranked player with Flash know what they are doing. Or they should.
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To me summoner spells are used to complete what is lacking in the character you are playing. That is why I like taking flash or ghost for characters that are not mobile. I use ghost with Kog'maw for chasing/escaping, I use flash with Sona so I don't die in team fights. I think flash is an essential summoner spell for some heroes just like any other summoner spell. It also helps make more tanks viable initiators. If heroes are just using flash to avoid ganks when they are out of position, then they are less of a threat to me because they don't use it to its full potential, and with some planning you can counter this use of flash.
I am surprised to see someone from DotA complaining about Flash, when we had the Blink Dagger? Even though you couldn't use it in combat, it still went much further, had a lot less cd, and you could actually aim it, but it came at a cost since it was an actual item and used mana. Even if you didn't use it for initiating, if you could manage to juke for 5 seconds, you could escape a gank. I wouldn't mind if they implemented something like that instead of Flash, I just think having the ability to get a blink type move for any champion makes the game more interesting and variable.
I am surprised to see someone from DotA complaining about Flash, when we had the Blink Dagger? Even though you couldn't use it in combat, it still went much further, had a lot less cd, and you could actually aim it, but it came at a cost since it was an actual item and used mana. Even if you didn't use it for initiating, if you could manage to juke for 5 seconds, you could escape a gank. I wouldn't mind if they implemented something like that instead of Flash, I just think having the ability to get a blink type move for any champion makes the game more interesting and variable.
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