idea for Udyr Jungle

[quote=RIPTUPcooler]ive been playing udyr for a while now its since im playing him i got sooo used to jungling however, im trying this build and wanted some feed back..... i start off with Phoenix Stance @ lv 1, lv 2 i go into turtle and depending how aggressive the other team is i prolly go for bear stance at lv 3 or jus at lv 4... i cut Phoenix Stance at lv 9 and immediately start tiger stance as soon as i start building my wit's end. i found out i do way more dmg with tiger stance in mid-late game situations cuz Phoenix Stance doesnt really do tht much dmg mid late game unless ur clearing CS[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]Most people think that Phoenix is better. I still love my tiger. Early Wriggles, build into Phage then Frozen Mallet+Atmas+Sunfire+FoN. Boots are whatever. Probably Mercs. You deal plenty of damage then. Sufficiently tanky too.[/quote]

[quote=RIPTUPcooler]well i either get merc or tabi's depending if im facing a ap or ad intensive team. but i like to get early wriggles, treads, and wit's end is a MUST for me lol... the early phoenix stance i think helps me clear the jungle super fast early game... so wen i actually ahve good items i just take advantage of the tiger stance since i'd prolly have sufficient attack speed[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Don't ever get Wriggle's on Phoenix Udyr jungle imo. The proc is almost worthless when most of his damage comes from his AoE and he already clears so fast. Wit's End is a much better item for Phoenix jungle in every way and it's only slightly more money.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]skip wriggles on jangle phoe udyr. I personally like basic boot, recurve, philo - hog, merc treads, wit's end, warden's mail, randuin's omen, shurelya. o: GP10 items if lanes aren't very gankable, and rushing merc and wit's end earlier if you feel you'll be fighting often and whatnot.[/quote]

[quote=Zell]I feel that leveling [[Tiger Stance]] right after maxing [[Phoenix Stance]] is a waste. Firstly your runes should/will be optimized for Phoenix Stance as that's is the stance your starting with thus tiger won't be as effective, if that isn't the case then your gimping your clearing time. Secondly, as [[Udyr]] most of the time you will be needed by your team to initiate/tank (meaning you'd have defensive masteries losing out on attack-damage) anyway in which situation I'd prefer [[Phoenix Stance]] for self-explanatory reasons. [[Wit's End]] synergies better with [[Phoenix Stance]] due to the persistence effect. Your also losing out on the extra utility from [[Bear Stance]] and durability from [[Turtle Stance]].[/quote]

[quote=RIPTUPcooler]tru but i dont rly max Phoenix Stance i cut it at lv 7 and start tiger at lv 9 but ima try skipping wriggles and go into wit's end faster and try for early omen[/quote]

[quote=TheJohn]I'd not max Phoenix, cause its best part is the easy farming. Tiger, Turtle and Bear are the best for fights[/quote]

[quote=Babit]I put 1 lvl in phoenix for my lvl 1 clear. Then I prioritize w.e I feel like I need. normally Tiger>Turtle>Bear Also I run AS reds and MS quints.[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]I'm personally against both tiger and phoenix in the jungle because the runes and itemizing gets fucked a lot. With phoe you just skip out wriggles. Normally like boots 3, wits, merc, and then full on tanky. insert hog if you need gold[/quote]