Murderface Shen build

[quote=Luther3000]O. Ya that's probably overkill. He did say he's never actually gotten to it though.[/quote]

[quote=Darcurse]Not to mention that things like Ignite/Surge would end up the same way on any other ap tank. Malphite/Amu/Ramm also champs like Maokai played tanky etc. All scale with AP and can make use of AS somehow. It's not that wrong to pick them if you wanna increase your dmg, but that's not a tank's job.[/quote]

[quote=marxr87]I don't really play Shen as pure tank anymore. I think there are other tanks far better suited to be pure. In fact, I think he is a better tank if you go as a bruiser. Nobody attacks tank shen and he only gets a 1.5 second taunt. If you compromise ur resistances for dmg you actually make yourself a tempting target instead of some pathetic damage juggernaut. I've refined my build a bit since I've played ranked and I REALLY like this: HoG- boots- warmogs- merc treads- warden mail- wits end- ionic spark- randuins- FoN (now I never get FoN lol) this build is cheaper and its about as tanky with WAY more damage. After reading the comments I did want to work in Wits End and this is how I did it. With the treads and wits you get the majority of mr you would lose from FoN. You can still get tabi if you want, doesnt really matter. But wits does boost his damage because you get far more ki strikes and far more ionic procs. If you are smashing you can reverse ionic and wits but I really suggest gettin warden mail first because it gives you a significantly longer lifespan. Your SS give you the damage you hold off on from items and your early game burst is pretty stupid on carries. You will lose 1v1 to tanks but thats about it. Even then you stand a chance to win if you go all out with ss and abilities but its pretty doubtful that you can kill a rammy or naut. Carries get murderface'd into oblivion tho. Its pretty hilarious.[/quote]

[quote=marxr87]Also, some people will say that malady is better but I don't think so. You are guaranteed to make people buy madreds because of your silly amount of hp (I had two people field them just for me last game :P ) so the mr from wits end is quite nice.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000][quote=marxr87] HoG- boots- warmogs- merc treads- warden mail- wits end- ionic spark- randuins- FoN (now I never get FoN lol) [/quote] This is very close to what I build, except I like getting [[Atma's Impaler]] instead of ionic spark. I feel like an early [[Phage]] into a late [[Trinity Force]] would be good also.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime][quote=Luther3000] I prefer [[Wit's End]] to Ionic Spark if you really want the AS. [/quote] Yeap. Ionic spark may very well be the most uselss P.O.S. in the game.[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][url=http://leaguecraft.com/builder/Shen/items=28,55,108,15,105,70&runes=64,64,64,64,64,64,64,64,64,63,63,63,63,63,63,63,63,63,98,98,98,98,98,98,98,98,98,384,384,384&masteries=1300400010000000003304021000313010000000000000000&level=18]SHEEN[/url] This is my favorite shen build, just because it is a reasonable expectation to get during a standard ordinary shen game.[/quote]

[quote=marxr87]Ionic spark is great on Shen, why no love? 50% as, 250 hp (which is 25 additional dmg for ki strike), and a pretty good passive. It's not amazing passive but it syncs well with the way shen does damage. Plus it gives you some range since it can jump. Lots of people barely get away from me as shen quite often and I just have to let them go b/c shadowdash costs so much energy to use. Also, I don't think sheen is that great on him and here is why: Both item it builds into are very expensive and dont help shen that much in the way of tankiness or hp for ki strikes. Also, some of the stats will be wasted on tri or lich because we dont use mana and we dont really need crit at all. Lastly, but most importantly, shen's base ad blows hard. The bonus you get from sheen is just not worth it imo. We want ki strikes, not sheen procs for the main source of our damage so i like to invest only in attack speed for him offensively and hp defensively/offensively if i can. We need some armor and mr because a large health pool won't be enough against a madreds or too much focus from ad.[/quote]

[quote=marxr87]Also that is why I don't get atmas either. His base ad isn't that great and it becomes decent with atmas, but not great still. Atmas is a big investment and I think we can squeeze more damage out of health with a.s. for ki strikes (I have not done math tho, I could definetely be wrong). The armor is nice from it, but once again the crit you pay for is kinda a waste imo especially since you are sacrificing attack speed to get it and you won't hit often enough with the low chance to crit to really make it worth imo. Edit: Just noticed that was a buiild link lol. No mention of sheen at all so consider my entire explanation about sheen moot :P[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Base AD has no relevance to the value of Atma's. It becomes more valuable with health and attack speed.[/quote]