Murderface Shen build

[quote=marxr87]i guess that is true, but i think base ad does still matter in a way. if my ad is garbage i would rather focus on going pure hp attack speed for stronger ki strikes. Especially since I run him magic pen marks and ki strikes do magic damage.[/quote]

[quote=marxr87]ki strikes also proc on turrets so its pretty good at letting him have some push potential. No ad carry, but they cant just let him beat on turrets either. Edit: Sorry for not combining top two posts. No reason I didn't other than its late and I've had a couple budlights :)[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Again though, the value of AD is not lessened by not having very much of it - in fact, quite the opposite. AD, AS and crit have a relationship whereby increasing one makes the others more valuable to buy. You're already getting AS so you're attacking more often, why not increase the damage you're dealing with each attack? Atma's scales very well with health and AS, and you're already buying both on Shen, so if the situation warrants it I think it's a good item for him. The situation being that you want both armour and damage for cheap in one item.[/quote]

[quote=marxr87]Hm, well you've convinced me to try it in ranked for awhile and see what's up lol[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Well I'm not saying it should be a 100% must buy item in every game, I just think it's definitely worthy of consideration if you're going for health/AS Shen.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]I actually think, at this build, AS Marks could be also viable.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]For jungling perhaps, but remember his Q and passive are both magic damage and are what you're using to harass in lane.[/quote]

[quote=Pølsemanden][quote=Luther3000] Base AD has no relevance to the value of Atma's. It becomes more valuable with health and attack speed. [/quote] Because crit does not scale with ad like... at all... I think Magic-pen is the most viable in this situation. My contribution: Merc, Phage, HoG, Warmogs, Randuins, Fromal or tri-force, Wits, Madreds.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000][quote=Pølsemanden] [quote=Luther3000] Base AD has no relevance to the value of Atma's. It becomes more valuable with health and attack speed. [/quote] Because crit does not scale with ad like... at all... [/quote] I fail to see your point, Atma's already gives crit chance. None of the other crit chance items seem like they'd work on Shen so it didn't seem worth mentioning.[/quote]

[quote=Somalie]Double warmog Fon Randuin, boots, random damage item. Mad Hp regen (hi baron buff), good damage with all that HP, good armor/rm. Something like Boots > giant belt > counter build (starting FoN or Randuin) > first Warmogg +boots > see how the game goes. Was a kind of stomp game btw :c PS : Auto-attack dont lower the CD of ki strick if you attack turret, AS dont help getting more ki strick against tower (like Graves' E)[/quote]