Karma, tanky AP

[quote=Slappiz][quote=Klausenheim] [quote=Slappiz] You wouldn't want to go mid. [/quote] I'm confused as to why you wouldn't want to go mid. [/quote] I just don't see why you should want to put her mid. Her damage is to low for being much of a threat if ganking other lanes. She needs farm and loads of it, and imo the top lane is probably the best plays for her to reach her full potential. Tell me one good reason why she would be a strong mid pick, other than pushing like a maniac?[/quote]

[quote=animorte]Harass without even trying. Nearly immune to ganks if you pay any kind of attention. Pushing like a maniac. :P I have played her mid with extremely similar results to Mordekaiser mid.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]Karma mid is like Morde mid. If you kill them, great. If you deny them farm and never leave lane, you did your job.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]Karma mid is nothing like Morde Mid :x[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]It's slightly weaker, but works about the same. I think if her mana wasn't a problem, she would beat [[mordekaiser]]. I went mid [[karma]] a while back, and I wrecked whoever was there pretty hard until the damage started going up and I started having lag spikes -.-[/quote]

[quote=Klausenheim]Well it looks like other people covered the main bases as to why she is a strong mid pick. I'm not saying she can't go top. I'm sure she can do great up there. But if I had to choose between a Karma top + Brand mid or a Karma Mid + Renekton or really any tanky dps / disruptor generic top lane, I'll take the later.[/quote]

[quote=Slappiz][quote=Klausenheim] Well it looks like other people covered the main bases as to why she is a strong mid pick. I'm not saying she can't go top. I'm sure she can do great up there. But if I had to choose between a Karma top + Brand mid or a Karma Mid + Renekton or really any tanky dps / disruptor generic top lane, I'll take the later. [/quote] I don't think you should rely on Karma as a AP carry, she just can't deal the same amount of damage as a regular AP.. I only see one viable place for her, and that should be in a Duo-Ap team. Her ability kit just doesn't fit in the role as straight out AP-carry.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]Neither does Soraka's. People still played her as such and, iirc, one of the top rated guides for her is AP carry Soraka. How about Maokai? His set isn't "support" but people still play him like that. Here's the "Karma mid" scenario broken down a little... Shields do tons of damage and shield for a lot. Healing wave hurts, a lot. Heals a lot too. Spirit bond has really close to 100% uptime. It does massive damage if it hits. (good Karma's can force it to) There's no reason not to send her mid. She works well top but she needs to build tanky in order to survive so the double WotA strat is pushed further and further into later game where it won't matter as much.[/quote]

[quote=Slappiz][quote=Lugignaf] Neither does Soraka's. People still played her as such and, iirc, one of the top rated guides for her is AP carry Soraka. [/quote] And 1 out of 100 is able to carry with Soraka, seems legit ?[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=Slappiz] [quote=Lugignaf] Neither does Soraka's. People still played her as such and, iirc, one of the top rated guides for her is AP carry Soraka. [/quote] And 1 out of 100 is able to carry with Soraka, seems legit ? [/quote] You don't remember the time when everyone on the official forums called Soraka OP. Those were the days....[/quote]