counter Irelia with Riven?

[quote=Crows foot]How do you build/play this? Just make her go low on mana and push her out of lane?[/quote]

[quote=koksei]no just no they should be even if both players are good[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]Better counter is Maokai. Just sayin.[/quote]

[quote=Crows foot]now I am talking about a certain matchup...[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]The thing is, you're not going to counter her. You're gonna have a really bad time. Irelia's passive makes your stun really terrible. Her sustain from her W is better than your no sustain. While you do have mobility on her, she has an easier time CS-ing while you're kinda forced to push the lane. Just focus on surviving and harass whenever you have the time. Like, when she's near her caster minions.[/quote]

[quote=Diesel]You counter her with a good jungler and not trying to 1v1'ing her. Focus on farming what you can and having your jungler punish her when she's pushed out.[/quote]

[quote=Crows foot]I got fb, she got the next 3 kills, then I got one, we won the game and I won top even though she outduelled me. Now I know kind of how to play against her next time.[/quote]

[quote=Pølsemanden]Start with boots+3 and play offensive from level 1. She can't do anything to you before level 3, if you keep playing offensive, you'll burn out her mana quite soon and that will render her to just look at you while you deny her, kill her at level 6.[/quote]

[quote=Pwnzor1130]Irelia vs Riven is sort of an odd lane. Riven wins early and Irelia makes up for it a bit later if done correctly. This lane also snowballs heavily. Jungler involvement would decide it. Just ask for ganks, be aggressive very early (particularly level 2) and try to prevent her from getting the farm that she needs.[/quote]

[quote=A Chubby Baby]it's really hard. and i know from personal experience.[/quote]