Two things I could really use tips on.

[quote=Opaque_Shadow]Counter jungling - I can deal with it fine, but I can never seem to do it in a meaningful way, I play champs like mundo, olaf, jarvan, Maokai, Malph, Naut, and nocturne, yet no matter who I'm playing my counter jungling doesn't seem to effect the enemy jungler fiddlesticks - he's been re-surging suddenly in my experience on low elo solo que, and it's crushing me. All he is doing is going for a fast zohnya's are wrecking us, I know not to fight on top of him but his team keeps us on him unless we want them to just melt us when we turn to move off him.[/quote]

[quote=AFKwithyoursister]Counter Jungling - It works best if you're playing a fast clearing jungler, and there are multiple ways to do it -Take enemy small camps, leave small minion there -Steal buffs, for example, the buff they started at spawns around 7:10 -Hunt down enemy jungler and kill them in jungler, your character must be a strong duelist for this to work (unless you ambush them at a buff or something)[/quote]

[quote=Klausenheim]Play a champion who can silence [[Fiddlesticks]]. Or CC him and blow him up, forcing him to waste Zhonya's just to stay alive...then you can instagib him if he tries to ult without his invincibility.[/quote]

[quote=IceCreamy]About [[Fiddlesticks]]: Try to stun/silence him when he is charging his ult. You should certainly ward all over the place, to prevent his ult from dealing a lot of damage if he gets it off. If all else fails counterpick him with [[Alistar]] or [[Tristana]]. Don't know about counterjungling either, I have only recently picked up jungling and I need to learn a lot ;)[/quote]

[quote=Opaque_Shadow]KK, thx,and i must say i am a terribad Ali jungler[/quote]