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Heimer-> No Respect...

Creator: KERMIT1026 July 13, 2012 12:39am
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I hear they have a rework planned for him.
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Actually no... Heimerdinger is ridicolously easy to Master since once you know How to he's easy.
But untill You know How hé seems like total garbage.

Heiner is a better version of ap nida
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xLockDownx wrote:

He is indeed an underestimated champion simply because people look at him and think "wow how weak/wow how bad".

He is difficult to use and may appear to be weak but the truth is he is just hard to master which is why most LoL players brand champions as **** because they simply cant use them.

He is a strong champion and definitely underestimated.


This is the most conceited naive post I've read in awhile.

Basically what this post REALLY says to me is "I love Heimerdinger so much that I'm going to ignore his short comings and chalk it up to 'He's just too difficult for most lowly LoL players to comprehend'.

Heimerdinger, in his current form, cannot compete with a majority of other APs. His kit is UP not for lack of damage, but lack of viability. His cool downs are too long and his grenade is too slow for him to be a reliable nuke. His ultimate is lacking too.

But hey, that's my opinion, disagree all you want, you wont sell me on Heimerdinger. Once they rework him though, it's anyone's guess.
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^ This.
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News for you all, every champion has something that isn't perfect about them. People who actually like them make it work despite that fact... Leave it alone.
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he sucks because he has no burst at all except his rockets (his granade is extremely easy to dodge) and his ulti is useless in team fights unless you go rambo style and bait them into a trap at a specific spot at a specific time (which never works), other than laning he's useless and a free kill......he pushes hard but you **** him up with almost any AP because he's so squishy and has no escape at all except flash and no CC (except his slow motion granade).........kennen will even auto attack him to death because he's almost always over extended, gragas will push back with his barrels or ulti his *** into his own turret GG, ahri will orb the **** out of him or use his fox fire (w.e his W is called), le blanc will burst his *** down, same with veigar and Annie. Cassiopeia will just Q his hp down like a mofo when he pushes.....lux will just CC the hell out of him...Fizz will shark him to hell... and it goes on and on........

TL;DR

No CC, no burst, no ulti that can help in team fights, can only push, over extended free kill FML FEEDER GG NOOB UNINSTALL!!


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Just one question. Are you blantantly ignoring his very existence on purpose?

He has obvious CC (blind/stun/slow).
If you can't land a skill shot, get better at it (play Ezreal).
Do you have any idea how easy it is to get a bush ult on somebody these days? If he leaves turrets at an escape route (enemy or ally) or he places them near dragon/baron, the enemy literally has no choice but to come to them.

In response to the recent post, almost every AP Mid in the game is extremely squishy. LeBlanc/Veigar/Annie can already burst literally almost anybody down. Cass has more damage than anybody else in the game (except maybe Kog) so that is a comparison best left alone in every situation. Etc, etc, etc... You are just naming a lot of things that every champion has to deal with.

I personally don't play him because I simply have more fun with other champions. Also his voice is extremely annoying (just like Annie and Mundo), which can of course be turned down.
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The problem is his grenade is terribly easy to dodge from afar. Its best used close to point blank while someone dives you on your turrets. Sadly, only baddies dive Heimer on his turrets.
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Either way, it seems those problems will be solved here.
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Regarding pushing - killed mid tower is good idea even early in game due to strategical monitoring of enemy movement. Ofc it lovers your possibility to cs when enemy freeze lane near their 2nd tower. But open up safer ganks all over map.

I do not consider him very strong, but can see him as viable pick against for example LB. You will get some survivability, push all day -> we all know that LB is far from viable lasthitter under tower. If LB attack you turrets focus her.
Ofc u must build little defensive to survive strong combos, but I think disabling LB is good price for it.
Dont talk like u get 0 gold from constant pushing too, u should get more cs than enemy by default.

But problem is really in team comp, where I do not see valid position for him.
He can be ok in picking objectives, turrets are not ignorable when enemy try to dive u 5v5 at drake or blue/red buffs or Nashor.

But I would still prefer to have 2nd AP top with more viable sustain dmg. And yes if you focus heimer he have no escape skill, zhonya could be viable on him for teamfights.

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