Supports and carries

[quote=Pheyniex]lol [[Blitzcrank]] is compleetly left out here...[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][quote=Pheyniex] lol [[Blitzcrank]] is compleetly left out here... [/quote] I don't consider blitzcrank a good support, he's a gimmicky support thats come into flavor because of the constant nerf to sustain supports. In my opinion a support is supposed to be consistently able to protect his/her AD carry and/or harass the enemy carry, blitzcrank is way to inconsistent but that's just my opinion[/quote]

[quote=Mowen]I think people like Blitz because he's very punishing to low ELO players. You can also carry games decently with him because of his ability to catch people that are out of position and give your team a number advantage. I think Blitz protects the carry pretty decently actually. He has a really low cd knockup and a silence. Not as good as Janna or Alistar obviously but I think he's a good support in general, and he has more kill potential than Janna and range unlike Alistar. I think he's a good choice with/against the right team.[/quote]

[quote=Arkharan]Hey, fisting people is FUN. Also I see no problem using blitzcrank, he's really good at punishing people for their mistake. Grab people over baron/dragon, good invades, decent cc.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites]for me if I was looking for a kill lane I'd run [[Leona]]. I think she does a better job than Blitz and is more consistently able to protect the carry[/quote]

[quote=Mowen]I think it depends. If you want to bring the enemy closer to the AD carry (such as Graves or Trist) then Blitz is better. If the AD is fragile (kog, Ezreal) Leona is better since she can CC/burst while keeping them at a distance. Blitz lets you pick off one person in teamfights and bring them to your team, which is very, very good. Leona gives you AOE CC but the enemy team stays in the position they were originally in, which is also very good, but in a different way. So, I think depending on the team comp / what you're going for one will be better and one worst.[/quote]

[quote=lifebaka][quote=Mowen] I think it depends. If you want to bring the enemy closer to the AD carry (such as Graves or Trist) then Blitz is better. If the AD is fragile (kog, Ezreal) Leona is better since she can CC/burst while keeping them at a distance. Blitz lets you pick off one person in teamfights and bring them to your team, which is very, very good. Leona gives you AOE CC but the enemy team stays in the position they were originally in, which is also very good, but in a different way. So, I think depending on the team comp / what you're going for one will be better and one worst. [/quote] It's also worth considering whether you're doing solo queue or playing with someone you know down bottom. If you haven't played with your bottom lane partner before, Blitz is far easier to lane with. He doesn't require any action on the part of your carry to get them into position, he just pulls his target where he wants them. Leona, on the other hand, requires your carry to get into position for her initiation and CC, which is harder to manage when you and your carry don't know each other. This, IMO, is a major reason why Blitz is more popular than Leona right now.[/quote]

[quote=miniboes]I saw a blitzcrank support together with an ezreal in a stream yesterday. They got raped. But that was obvious because it was versus m5, i have honestly never seen m5 lose. But they did manage to get some kills with the pull, knockup and ezreals burst damage. In the time blitzcrank had pulled and knocked up the enemy ezreal was able to fire al his 3 spells, while they were running another q, and his ulti if they were not finished, that was very strong imo. But even stronger was the combination on the other side: Leone and tristana. If blitzcrank pulled leona instead of tristana they were kind of dead, leona would cc them heavily so tristana could jump in and do free damage. At least one of them would die. In this game ive seen how strong blitzcrank was together with a high burst champion, but in my opinion leona was way better. I think her entire skillshet excists of CC? It totally dominates. I have been playing with a premade suport leona a lot, and i have noticed that when i have a champion like Ashe it just doesnt work, while if i have a champion like Graves it's awesome, i now understand why, thats great :D I also really like how taric can go from a kill lane to a sustain lane if the killing just wont work. I once had a kogmaw and volibear on the enemy side and it was impossible to come to kogmaw and impossible to kill volibear. Yet we could easily switch to a sustaining lane with me being able to heal both myself and the carry.[/quote]