What do you guys think about Rengar?

[quote=FalseoGod]Even his lane phase can be ridiculous now, I played jayce vs him, managed to slowly take his HP away until he felt "maneageble" (aroud 1/4th) Then I died. He q'd, W'd, W'd again for hp, ran to brush, Q, ignite, E, die jayce die. From then on, my jungler and I couldn't do crap.[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian][[teemo]] stomps on him at top though :3[/quote]

[quote=Shuru][quote=tehAsian] [[teemo]] stomps on him at top though :3 [/quote] Yeah but I like to jungle as [[Rengar]] D: (even though I know his jungle isn't quite as good as others. I know. lol)[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS][quote=tehAsian] [[teemo]] stomps on him at top though :3 [/quote] Get level 3.... wait in bush for Teemo to push up, jump on Teemo wait for blind, disengage, hit W while pulling back to bush as well as Bola him, jump on Teemo from brush use Q. Go back to bush now bola shot then jump and use W twice. Where did Teemo "stomp" me here? Teemo can poke Rengar and kill him IF the Rengar is dumb. IDK from my perspective if Teemo doesn't play it right Rengar will just eat him...A "cat and mouse" game of sorts.[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]You even said if Teemo doesn't play it right >_> So what happens if he does? Because in my experience [[rengar]] has a very difficult time against ranged opponents due to having no gap closer other than utilizing the brush. And the brush is usually shroomed by [[teemo]] :p[/quote]

[quote=Xeronn][quote=tehAsian] You even said if Teemo doesn't play it right >_> So what happens if he does? Because in my experience [[rengar]] has a very difficult time against ranged opponents due to having no gap closer other than utilizing the brush. And the brush is usually shroomed by [[teemo]] :p [/quote] [[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][[Vision Ward]][/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS][quote=tehAsian] You even said if Teemo doesn't play it right >_> So what happens if he does? Because in my experience [[rengar]] has a very difficult time against ranged opponents due to having no gap closer other than utilizing the brush. And the brush is usually shroomed by [[teemo]] :p [/quote] Most melee champs have a difficult time against any ranged...But Rengar doesn't have to rely on sustained AAs to deal his damage...He can simply pop Battle Roar and do lots of burst, as well as heal (when he has 5 ferocity). If Rengar is hard engaging Teemo 1v1 he's probably bad...All you do is jump on him use W back off rinse repeat. Teemo has to NOT get his blind baited out, he has to kite (hard with bola shot on you), he can't utilize the brush defensively because Rengar's passive makes sitting in a brush and trying to trade with Rengar a stupid move. It's Rengar's match up to lose, keep in mind this is hypothetical, but honestly I don;t see where Teemo can win without ganks or luck at saving blinding dart. If Teemo avoids the bushes to stay out of range of your passive, you simply farm. When Teemo comes in to harass you use Bola shot to lock him down then hit with battle roar and disengage. IF you have enough to combo for a Ferocity buffed skill (say you're at 3 Ferocity) you lead with a battle roar followed bola then either another battle roar, or Q if you need the heal Roar, if you aren't blinded Q. If you're just pwning him so hard then it doesn't matter. This match up is Rengar's to lose because his kit doesn't focus on sustained engagements like Teemo's does. Just my opinions though.[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]Oh :P My bad, I was under the assumption you'd max always Q on AD [[rengar]]. Still think you'd beat him if you played properly.[/quote]

[quote=Shuru]In lane you want the sustain of his Roar over the damage of his Q.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]Sustain+Damage of his roar. His Roar gives 15% of your max HP at all levels (or that was what I remember reading) It's the ability to instantly pop it twice that makes it reasonable to level over Q.[/quote]