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Something about the advice I have been getting...

Creator: Kazega October 13, 2012 4:08pm
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What else should I expect when I go to a site whose main focus is helping the players who want to be helped, and making it easier those that can help? I have been looking for help for a long time now, even when I was at my highest point because others were still higher. And all I have gotten out of anyone is the recycled BS that I am getting sick and tired of.

As far as not knowing me? I'm shy even when it comes to online communities. It might not seem like it because I am most vocal when my pride is affected, Which as of late seems to be a lot, but for the most part I tend to stay on the quiet side and keep to myself, because whenever I do try to get out there, no one even bothers with me, or worse people just push me lower just because they can. That is the way it has always been for me.

@ Wafflewarrior: That doesn't seem to make any sense. A coach is very important to getting better because finding out things on your own is going to take a long time because you won't know what you are doing wrong and what steps to take to fix it, because you don't know any better.
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The quickest way to help find your flaws is to have the person play with you. You play a role, and he/she finds out what you can work on, what you could have done different. Staying or running etc. small things, which can make a big impact in a match like a Dragon steal, or a successful teamfight at Baron Nashor. If you are playing a tank: When to initiate? Who to go for first? When to use a certain ability?

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WaffleWarrior: oh so wrong. To be able to get anything out from finding your own flaws you need more than a basic understanding of something. And even then there are things to improve on that you cannot see yourself. Saying that being autodidact is the best way to learn is like saying that there is no use for teachers or coaches anywhere cause people would be better off without them. One of the most stupid things I've read here. And I've read lots.

And while Throat is right, we don't owe anyone ****, he is still wrong in the sense that if we give any advice, it should be constructive. "Get better" isn't. Not unless it is followed by an explanation.
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There's no specific advice people can give you if they think you need work on everything as a whole.

Watch streams, practice csing, practice map awareness, practice reflexes, improve knowledge.

That's basically it.
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I'm surprised that no one's suggested that you watch live stream of higher elo players/pros. Take a look at what they do and more importantly, look at what they do that you don't.

TheOddOne talks as he does his streams, giving advice, explaining why he does what he does, etc etc. Find other ones like him. See where he places his screen, what he notices on the minimap that you might not. Check out his stream.

I do suggest you duo queue with someone who understands the kind of plays that you make. I duo queue with someone who watches the same streams or plays that I myself have seen, so when he takes jungle and I take a lane, we do better than just solo-queue individually. If you go duo queue, I'm not necessarily sure if going premade botlane is the best, because that only affects one lane the best. If you take individual lanes/positions (solotop, mid, jungle) it might be easier to carry your team (for example, where you and your premade are mid/jungle, coordinate a gank on top/botlane more effectively).

Otherwise, post up some videos of your play and then the rest of us might find it a bit easier to give you advice other than 'do better, practice moar,etcetcetcetc).
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If you aren't getting useful advice, perhaps you aren't asking the right questions. A large part of why you're not getting useful advice is probably that you're asking something quite like "How can I win more games?" or "How can I gain Elo?" Understandably, when your questions are huge and vague and give those answering nothing to work with, the answers you receive are going to be huge and vague and give you nothing to work with.
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