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Flat AP vs AP/level

Creator: TheKut November 2, 2012 4:52am
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Flat AP
Mark - 0,59 AP per rune (9)
Glyph - 1.19 AP per rune (9)
Seal - 0.59 AP per rune (9)
Quint - 4.95 AP per rune (3)

AP/lvl
Mark - 0,1 AP per rune (9)
Glyph - 0.17 AP per rune (9)
Seal - 0,1 AP per rune (9)
Quint - 0,43 AP per rune (3)

AP/lvl vs Flat AP (what lvl req to beat)
Mark - lvl 6 req
Glyph - lvl 7 req
Seal - lvl 6 req
Quint - lvl 12 req

So when we compare those numbers and we take into consideration that lvl 1-6 will be mostly lasthitting. When you get 6 you can start thinking about killing etc.
This is only an example remember...

So with those stats you can see that if you would have to pick from AP vs AP/lvl i would go
Mark - per lvl
Glyph - flat
Seal - per lvl
Quint - flat

But there are also way better options like Mpen for Marks, MR Glyphs or Mp5 seals.

I would go with
Marks - Mpen
Glyphs - MR
Seals - mp5
Quint - flat AP or MS

For most.


But i also like going:

Marks - Mpen
Glyphs - AP/lvl
Seals - AP/lvl
Quint - flat AP

For champions like Karthus.
For your champs this would also work for Cass.

For Fizz and Ahro i would go with mpen/mr/mp5/flat ap option.
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DEWO wrote:

Flat AP
Mark - 0,59 AP per rune (9)
Glyph - 1.19 AP per rune (9)
Seal - 0.59 AP per rune (9)
Quint - 4.95 AP per rune (3)

AP/lvl
Mark - 0,1 AP per rune (9)
Glyph - 0.17 AP per rune (9)
Seal - 0,1 AP per rune (9)
Quint - 0,43 AP per rune (3)

AP/lvl vs Flat AP (what lvl req to beat)
Mark - lvl 6 req
Glyph - lvl 7 req
Seal - lvl 6 req
Quint - lvl 12 req

So when we compare those numbers and we take into consideration that lvl 1-6 will be mostly lasthitting. When you get 6 you can start thinking about killing etc.
This is only an example remember...

So with those stats you can see that if you would have to pick from AP vs AP/lvl i would go
Mark - per lvl
Glyph - flat
Seal - per lvl
Quint - flat

But there are also way better options like Mpen for Marks, MR Glyphs or Mp5 seals.

I would go with
Marks - Mpen
Glyphs - MR
Seals - mp5
Quint - flat AP or MS

For most.


But i also like going:

Marks - Mpen
Glyphs - AP/lvl
Seals - AP/lvl
Quint - flat AP

For champions like Karthus.
For your champs this would also work for Cass.

For Fizz and Ahro i would go with mpen/mr/mp5/flat ap option.

Ok, thanks a lot. This helped.
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AP/lvl Karthus is risky as hell. His lane is already pretty weak and he gets pooped on by burst.
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Considering that Karthus tends to farm for twenty minutes then wreak havoc and considering that his kill potential doesn't really exist until he hits level 6, flat AP serves only to help him last hit early on.
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thas why you take MR

I actually have four AP runepages covering both AP/lvl and flat MR, but I almost always end up using the same one.

Greater Mark of Magic Penetration
greater seal of vitality
Greater Glyph of Magic Resist
Greater Quintessence of Ability Power

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Luther3000 wrote:

Neither, MR is better than both in most matchups.

This.

I take flat ability power on only 1 single champion: ap tristana.

I will sometimes take ap/lvl if i'm not worried about getting harassed down or outtraded, say, against morgana mid. 90% of my games I take MR glyphs.
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This.

I take flat ability power on only 1 single champion: ap tristana.

I will sometimes take ap/lvl if i'm not worried about getting harassed down or outtraded, say, against morgana mid. 90% of my games I take MR glyphs.


I take ap/lvl on Xerath but he's my only exception.
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This.

I take flat ability power on only 1 single champion: ap tristana.

I will sometimes take ap/lvl if i'm not worried about getting harassed down or outtraded, say, against morgana mid. 90% of my games I take MR glyphs.

I'd also add in Akali for her passives, but yeah.

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