Last Whisperer

[quote=Clonie]looking at the item called Last Whisperer at this website, and ingame, gives it 2 different values, and at this point im not sure if im not that good at english after all or this website have a outdatet description or likewise (sorry i dont know how to link items) On this website it says "Attacks penetrade 40% of the defenders armor" ingame it says "+40% armor penetration" someone sort this out for me plz X_X[/quote]

[quote=nand]What's the difference between 40% and 40%, exactly? Unless you're misinterpreting the second as a 40% boost to the actual value of armor penetration, which I can tell you it isn't. (Flat penetration and %-based penetration are completely separate and calculated in different steps)[/quote]

[quote=Searz]Both of those things mean the same thing..[/quote]

[quote=DEWO]as nand said +40% ArP could mean that you get a bonus ArP based on your accual ArP which is FALSE. "Armor reduction and armor penetration are applied in this order: 1. Percent reduction (Bushwhack / Pounce) 2. Flat reduction (The Black Cleaver, Puncturing Taunt, etc) 3. Flat penetration (The Brutalizer, Sunder Mastery, Runes of Desolation) 4. Percent penetration (Last Whisper)"[/quote]

[quote=nand][quote=DEWO] as nand said +40% ArP could mean that you get a bonus ArP based on your accual ArP which is FALSE. "Armor reduction and armor penetration are applied in this order: 1. Percent reduction (Bushwhack / Pounce) 2. Flat reduction (The Black Cleaver, Puncturing Taunt, etc) 3. Flat penetration (The Brutalizer, Sunder Mastery, Runes of Desolation) 4. Percent penetration (Last Whisper)" [/quote] Have you ever thought about stickying this order?[/quote]

[quote=DEWO]I am thinking about making game mechanics thread :) Will take some time tho :P[/quote]

[quote=nand]Or maybe a guide. I'm sure you could try contacting RobertMeta for permission to copy and expand on his Missing Manual over at leaguecraft. (If he declines, we could start a new one. Maybe as soon as collaborative guide making is implemented?)[/quote]

[quote=DEWO]or just simply place an external link directly to the manual[/quote]

[quote=Clonie][quote=Clonie] looking at the item called Last Whisperer at this website, and ingame, gives it 2 different values, and at this point im not sure if im not that good at english after all or this website have a outdatet description or likewise (sorry i dont know how to link items) On this website it says "Attacks penetrade 40% of the defenders armor" ingame it says "+40% armor penetration" someone sort this out for me plz X_X [/quote] guess i dident make it clear what i ment... 1. "+40% armor penetration" = if you got 100ArP, you get 140 2. "Attacks penetrade 40% of the defenders armor" = if enemy got 1000 armor you penetrade 400 of those thats the difference, the number is the same, but if you read it, it's to different things witch one of those are the correct one?[/quote]

[quote=DEWO]Attacks penetrade 40% of the defenders armor. This is applied as last one tho. So if you have 20 flat ArP and 40% and your target has 120 Armor. it will reduce it by 20 firstly and than 40% so 120Armor - 20 Armor = 100 Armor - 40% = 60 Armor.[/quote]