lol ***** ***** *****. you wouldn't happen to be a woman would you?

your right about everything. good day ma'am.

http://www.lolking.net/search?name=bukowski

So I'll assume you're NA, since the others aren't that high. Oh look, you're a whole 7 Elo above me? Yeah, shut the **** up about being better than me. Not to mention you've never played Blitzcrank ranked. That's why I didn't think that bukowski was your IGN.

20-9 with support? Guess you did Lux/ Orianna support, yeah, that's cool, but you neglected to mention the other 10 games you ****ed up. The only reason you're doing better than me in terms of support w/l ratio is because I'm not playing support as much this season. Trying to twist the stats so you look better... pathetic. Considering I did better at support than you last season (along with everything else), I don't know why you're so eager to puff up your own ego.

Kage's Lucky Pick - 25 mins, 30 secs / 12 mins, 46 secs if sold.
philosopher's stone - 23 minutes and 20 seconds or 11 minutes and 40 seconds if it is sold.

In order to pay off either for 1200/1000, you'd have to have them for far longer than is gold efficient (for your build) and if you sold them early, you are still being gold inefficient for buying them at all. Looking at your match history, you don't even get to complete an Aegis of the Legion in 30 mins. So your earlier claims of 'buffing your teammates', let alone 'debuffing the enemy' is a mistake, since you don't usually get that far.

Also, you did write a guide. You just happened to have deleted it after you got a little butthurt over it. That's what putting text to a build is. But I guess you're having difficulty with following that.

Not to mention that blind pick is not a viable means of proof for whether a build works or not. Anything works in blind pick.

And no, not everyone can support, because not everyone has the ability kit to do it. Let's see the aforementioned examples, shall we? It's not a matter of meta, but a matter of common sense. And even if you say 'don't blindly follow the meta', it's not like you're one to talk, playing Sona support all the time.

Oh, btw, have you worked out why Shen won't work with Manamune yet?

my philospher and kages always pay themselves off, usually 1200 for philo and 1000 for kages. my summoners name is bukowski, i guess that was too hard to figure out.

also, i didn't write a guide, hence why this is under "build only" but i guess you missed that. i tried to explain some of my choices and got *****es at for it not being pretty and proper.

anyone can support, just because it isn't the best option doesn't mean you can't do it. maybe you should try it instead of blindly following a meta saying everything is **** without trying it first.

"Wow, name-calling? Run out of rational arguments? Guess someone's getting a report."

lol go tell mom

Tone it down bukowski, no need for namecalling (I removed it from your post). You guys are allowed to disagree, but keep it civilised.

Wow. I like to *****? Have you taken a look at what you just wrote?

So, let's go through your items, then. So you start with Faerie Charm, that obviously builds into Philosopher's Stone for your GP10 item... but you don't build Philosopher's Stone into anything. And you also build a Kage's Lucky Pick, of which you also don't upgrade. I doubt your GP10s ever pay themselves off before you sell them, so you are inefficient with your gold.

All the while, you'll be spending money on wards. Wouldn't it just be a better idea to buy Sightstone and save yourself money? It is better to have Sightstone than waste money on wards, so you earn more money than you did in S2 (which is why you get Sightstone, not because you can manage without it). That way, you can then buy your 2800g Rod of Ages earlier before buying boots. Which are also incredibly late.

And as to 'I didn't write a guide', then what am I discussing on, then? What about all that writing you deleted earlier? Was that not a guide?

And also, any idiot can tell just by looking that Manamune won't work on Shen, not that you had to be level 30 to play Shen. Please please please take a good long hard look. Please learn to read and think.

Oh, everyone can support? So that's why I never see Master Yi support... or Tryndamere support... Varus support... etc. I don't know what you're so confused about. It's not rocket science.

Wow, name-calling? Run out of rational arguments? Guess someone's getting a report.

And you still refuse to give me your summoner name. Someone is seriously scared and is overcompensating by trying to insult me. Come on, you say you're a higher ranked player, right? Then come on, show me your gameplay stats and videos. I promise I won't bite.

But hey, if it makes you feel better that you play a game better than me, but can only reason like a 3-year old and use bad builds, then I hope it makes you proud.

lol ok i get it, you just like to *****.

a support without sightstone!? omg! how did people play support in season two i wonder? why write a guide when i don't know how? thats simple, i didn't, as i said several times i was simply throwing my build out there. and lol i have to play shen to be level 30? there are a ton of champs i don't play, does it say somewhere you must play all champs to play well? also, anyone CAN support, i don't know what it is your so confused about, it isn't rocket science.

i was just trying to throw out one of my funner builds and after all that, i'm still ranked higher than you. so have fun knowing your not as good as an idiot who has no idea what he's doing.

Hey, I didn't say to build all support items, I'm just showing the contradiction between your words and your build. A support build without Ruby Sightstone? You know grammar's important in order for people to understand you, right? Without grammar, you wouldn't be able to form coherent sentences and it causes for easy confusion. And also, what you mention is not all that a support does... If being a ward-slave and killbot was all it took to be a support, anyone can support.



IGN? Because I have no sufficient reason to believe you at the moment.



You are ****ing joking me, right? You can't say whether Manamune works on Shen? WTF, how are you even level 30?



If you don't know how to write a guide, why write one? And how is it that you didn't have the intention to write a guide but wrote one anyway? Makes no sense.

And now, with no text, no one will understand your item choices, mastery choices, rune choices and skillset choices, how to play your Blitzcrank, where to ward and so on. ggwp.

and who says every item you build has to be a support item? whats your deal with grammar? building all support items, and playing support aren't necessarily the same thing. if i'm warding, not taking cs, and assisting my adc with getting his kills i'm doing my job.

thats twenty wins to eight loses, i play fine as a support in ranked and have done well.

i don't play shen, so i can't say, but i'm all for trying totally crazy builds and things that are different, people will never learn if they don't try.

i'll agree i don't understand how to write a guide, and it wasn't my intention to do so. i was simply throwing out my blitz build. i'm pretty sure people get the gist without needing english degrees.

as in twenty wins to eight loses..

Not that what you said made any grammatical sense whatsoever, but how does building two Rod of Ages help with your ally's performance? Oh wait, it doesn't. It helps your performance. Ergo, fail support.



Is that 20-8 score-wise or the amount of wins/loss? IGN? Come on, come on, don't ignore that question. Even so, how are you higher elo than me and screwing up a support build this badly?



Perhaps there aren't 'correct' items, but there are most certainly 'incorrect' items. Would you say Manamune was a 'correct' item for Shen?



And that would be why you don't understand how to write a guide. We don't have to downvote you just for your build. If your guide is written badly, then it deserves downvotes as well, since you don't take your audience into account.

If you went 20-8 then you're a failed support indeed.

I can understand Rod of Ages on Blitzcrank. It works if you're roflstomping, i.e. the enemy bot lane is extremely bad, but not two of them.

my expertise is the actual definition of the word "A category of champions whose forte is to support his/her allies' performance."

i guess i misunderstand support then, but i've gone 20-8 as a support this season, and have a higher elo than you, so i feel like i'm doing alright.

there is no "correct" items, people need to try new things and think outside the box. i wasn't trying to write a masterpiece, infact i'll delete all the text and leave it as a plain build since people just want a wall of pretty text instead of a simple build.