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Graves Build Guide by Scumpii

AD Carry Combined ADC: Graves (Bot Lane Pwner) (WIP)

AD Carry Combined ADC: Graves (Bot Lane Pwner) (WIP)

Updated on January 14, 2013
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Ju5tice | January 14, 2013 11:45pm
Oh, how complicated all the things are about making a guide. But one thing is obviously right - you should write at least about mostly hard picks you met at your lane. For exmple, like Vayne - I really really hate Caitlyn, especially when my support doesn't have active CC, like Nunu or Soraka. You should have been mentioned things like this.

And, by the way, there is not obvious for me how to farm by Graves with his lack of mana. It's all about 3 Qs and Es, and you are empty. Or you often lane with Soraka? So, maybe you should talk a little about your favorite support?

That was a little feedback from me about guide content, not decor of it. I hope, I helped you for a bit to make your guide better.
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Scumpii | January 14, 2013 4:13pm
yea and i will copy paste whatever, didn't think it would get such a rage "feedback" of being not complete.
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Scumpii | January 14, 2013 4:12pm
yea i did get feedback from 1 person. ONE, the others were complaining about how unfinished it was, and Lagger, he did after was gone. they didn't give me feedback on the guide, I doubt they even read it. thanks anyways
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-NA- Veng Lmfao (169) | January 14, 2013 1:41pm
http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/blog/na-veng-lmfao/my-blog-good-guide-shop

First off, if you are going to do a line, make sure you use a space before/after it. The line just makes it even more messy. Change the "Pros" to "Pros". Also, the underline is like this: wrong should be: right. Thank the lord you mentioned Long Sword + crystaline flask as starting items. So many people not bothering to do that -__- You did [icon-clairvoyance size=18] with a - not an =!, also, you did [clarity] with only 1 bracket, instead of 2 ==> Clarity. Items, runes, masteries, summoner spells & skills are fine. You need to do some work.
PUT A SPACE BEFORE & AFTER YOUR WHITE LINE DIVIDER! Your pros / cons layout looks messy. I'd suggest messing around to get an epic one. Go to my Udyr guide & check mine out, I reckon it looks pretty clean and epic. 2 sections you MUST have as an ADC guide is: Enemy ADC matchup's & Friendly Support matchup's. Adding in these 2 sections GREATLY increase the knowledge of how to win a lane as Graves. You should definitely have a section on "other viable ITEMS", eg ==> Banshee's Veil. Also, just saw this. Under the summoner spells section, you say Heal icon=heal. I would do this code: Anyway. You've scored a 6.5 from me, which is JUST an upvote. Please take some of my advice.
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-NA- Veng Lmfao (169) | January 14, 2013 1:29pm
Sir, you ARE getting feedback. They downvoted because it wasn't complete.
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Laggermeister (242) | January 14, 2013 7:56am
While we're talking about people not reading stuff, did you read that link sirell posted? I wrote that guide btw.

Do not publish an incomplete guide. The reason is because it will drop further and further down the new guides list while you are finishing it up. That is just disadvantageous to you.

I suggest you republish. Archive this, start a new one and copy-paste the old one into the new. And please hold off on the publish button til it's complete.
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sirell (400) | January 14, 2013 7:34am
O.o? My guide?

It says this on my guide as the first comment:

Quoted:
I like this guide. Its solid, looks good, and makes sense.

However, I would leave the manamune for your last item. Just go 2 gp10s, tear, frozen heart, Shurelya's, Randuin's, then upgrade your tear to manamune. Of course there are exceptions... If your fed, grab that manamune fast to grab more kills.

Solid Guide +1


I don't know what the **** you're looking at (you shouldn't even be able to see my archived guide anyway).

If this is 3/4, I dread to see the final product. Hey, I didn't say it 'sucked ****' because it's unfinished, I'm just telling you to finish it first and then publish it. Don't make pointless (and wrong) assumptions, I said.

And hitting the 'publish' button is handing it in. You have deemed it ready to be judged by the wider community. And since it is not finished, why should it be received well?

So here's the 'teacher's feedback'. Finish the damn thing first. And then publish it.

Also, if you need feedback on how to write a guide because you're scared of mistakes, then you are clearly not qualified to write a guide. In order to write a guide on that champion, you should know them inside and out. You should be able to read through your own work and notice critical mistakes. A few blips here and there might be OK, but nothing so serious that you ask the wider community to correct you for you.

And like I said, finish your guide then ask me to come back and re-evaluate my vote.
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Scumpii | January 14, 2013 7:23am
@devdevil excuse me lol? I wasn't raging, I was pointing out facts, and seriously, i don't want to argue.
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Scumpii | January 14, 2013 7:20am
I just looked at your guide and the first comment was that, and why are you having such a big reaction, i didn't come here to argue.

And no, 1/4 Finished? hahha more like 3/4, and no i'm not handing it in, I already explained this, I wanted initial feedback so i didn't go too deep into the guide making the same mistakes. Its like a student asking the teacher for feedback when he is 3/4 done, and teacher is screaming at him for sucking **** because it's not finished...
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devdevil (74) | January 14, 2013 7:19am
If you really want feedback, just force people to comment to vote, and don't jump to such outrageous conclusions.

And rage less.
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sirell (400) | January 14, 2013 7:17am
Scumpii wrote:

and you are doing it to me because other people did it to you. lol. and did you even read my post, i just explained why i released it when it was not complete


Um... no, I didn't have it done to me? I released a completed guide. It's now archived pending S3 changes. Don't make pointless (and wrong) assumptions.

And the reason you released it whilst it was incomplete is irrelevant. What matters is that you released the guide and it was substantially unfinished. Hence, downvote.

It's like a student handing in an assignment 1/4 finished and then wondering why it's getting such a negative reaction.
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Scumpii | January 14, 2013 7:15am
@invite him, thank you for you feedback will continue to improve :D
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