hi there, same misunderstanding for you: I am open up for votes. You can see it in my discussion thread. If people dont like my guide and downvote (maybe even for personal reasons), its definitely ok. You are absolutely right with first guides, its not an excuse for making mistakes/flaws. But its a reason to give a bothsided review "pros + cons" for constructive critisism.

I actually critisized ShortyHUN's rating/scoring system. Its extemely unreliable by looking at his own guides and seeing nothing OP.



Thats a wise statement.

Cheers

@Wongstar

We don't have to show any appreciation just because of the work you put in if your guide ends up rubbish. In addition, just because it is your 'first guide' does not mean we have to give you any slack. If your guide is bad, people will downvote it.

Personally, I don't think ShortyHUN's reviews are reliable at all, so I would never ask him for a review.

@ Meiyjhe

I guess you misunderstood something. But thx for your attempt to meddle here.

To make something clear: I never assumed that ShortyHUN downvoted me, even if - i wouldn mind. I was just saying my opinion about his strange scoring system. -6,5 rating for a work, where i tried to make a best attempt for a first guide over several weeks, come on. such a score is like saying my effort was **** like hell, even without downvoting! Not a single appreciation from him. I have a matchup, what is essential for a good guide, what his own guide misses. Great guy! Ridiculous to hell.
Even if there are mistakes and flaws, this rating score is just devastating ambitious guidewriters. If all Pros are rating like this, no students would ever graduate at uni. As i said before, i dont know his logic, there are very shorty ****py unfinished guides out here, where he gave good scores. There are more elaborated ones where he gave very negative scores. Whats the point of having a
Its his right to review like this. But its my right to say him my opinion. If he has a problem with that and call me a ******. Fine, not a base to discuss anymore about this topic for me.

Ow, only for your knowledge: this guide had 61% out of 12 votes before i posted my "bad copy". Now its still 61%/12v. I didnt "revenge". I was just curious how hed reacts if someone gives him the same feeling he gives others. Actually im not even attempting to vote for this mediocre guidewriter/LoL.Player, who thinks he has big balls. ;-3

So in the end: YOU are wrong! haha. just kidding. Keep up the good air here.

Cheers

I am going to meddle in atm, because this seems to get a bit wrong.

In defense of ShortyHUN:
Everyone has the right to vote. Meaning that someone who thinks that purple is not a nice colour could downvote a guide for Jax, though the reason is rediculous.
There are people out there that do that, most of the time, they do not even tell you why they downvote your guide. There are also people out there, that actually do tell you what's wrong.
ShortyHUN is one of those people, he even gives a detailed review. If he thinks that your guide is not good enough, he has the right to downvote, he even told you why.
I do not even know if he did downvote you :O


In defense of Wongstar:
Same deal here. Though he did revenge comment, you do not know if he downvoted (since C2V isn't on).
He wanted to prove a statement, and he has the right to show you that he disagrees with the way people handle. Though this would be more fitting in a form of a PM, you shouldn't get angry at him because he disagrees with your concept of reviewing.


Conclusion
Your both wrong, hurray :D
Try to solve this issue instead of *****ing with eachother, that will help no one.

Banana out! :D

lol yea congrats for having a big **** now with your awesome wukong guide. Trinity Force as core item on Wukong, even as first offense item? How ****** is this. Way too expensive and there are much better items for early game aggression, like Black Cleaver combined with Randuin's Omen thereafter or even a BT makes more sense. Trinity Force is definitely a viable pick but not core. But thats my personal opinion. Wukong needs aggressive AD boosts with a bit sustain for trades early. But hey, you have your own playstyle. Thats absolutely ok! But there are people who would instantly downvote you for those subjective reasons. You got lucky.

Of course your reviews make sense. I never declined it. Actually i appreciated (some of) your points and updated my guide continuously and still doing it when i got free. But its the dumb scoring system of yours i critisize! Of course i can only pick out the mistakes, which every guides definitely have in personal views, and give for every single one a minus, which leads to a final score that is lower than hell, as you have seen in my "bad copy" of your review. (that was to pull ur leg). To tell you what: You can make a scoring system, pointing out the mistakes but also pointing out the good sides to make a final score. But your way to score is just **** and not really constructive, rather destroying the ppl's sight to make good guides. Or would you think after reading my "bad copy" a "WOW! Thank you sooo much. You just gave me the Will of Fire!" ok i better stop making fun of you before you got butthurt.

"many people told you your guide sucks". i got 6 votes until now. 2 downvotes with comments, one of legendary Laggermeister with no detailed review and one who just copied his comment. There should be another one left earlier with no comment, ok my fault not activitng c2v earlier. The other ones gave me constructive advices not telling me my guide sucks. Stop making false assumptions Mr. un******ed Perfect.

Lets stop talking for a while, because i dont like your tone right now. People with mistakes and flaws like you who find themselves perfect but having the habit to judge other people destructively are sucking. But thx for your feedback anyways. It showed me what kind of people are around in this community.

lol yea i got one of the top wu guides and news flash 12 votes, 4 troll votes does count. My reviews make sense, and most people appretiate that i point out what should be changed. -1s are major flaws, like the guide being incomplete usually results in negative score.

Sometimes, only sometimes when there are no stupid things i don't vote until -3 final. Your whole argument just makes no real sense, many people told you your guide sucks, and you keep getting butthurt on mine? Despite i didn't just say it's ****, rather i pointed what should be changed. And getting a -6.5 has it's reasons.

Congrats for advancing into ****** tier.

This guide got pretty much trolled, had only upvotes, than dude came by who was butthurt by my review of his ****py guide and suddenly i got like 4 downvotes...

And just telling i'm going by those point and a lot people got good scores, but those were good guides. If you got devastating score, there is a reason.

Who said that example is in purchase order. Anyway a very bad copy of my review, making pretty dumb points.

Oh dayum, an eye for an eye :P