ShapeShifter

[quote=BuckoBonzai]I have an Idea for a New Champion. Dont have a name for it but here it goes. Passive: gain stats equal to between 0% and 50% of existing stats based on stats of mimicked Champion/Monster/Minion. for Example, New AD = Base AD + Base AD((Mimicked AD/(Base AD/2 - Mimicked AD))/(2*Mimicked AD/(Base AD/2 - Mimicked AD) + 1)) Strangely complicated but you get the idea. Q: Boost the attack speed and CDR for self and mimicked Champion/Monster/Minion for 4 seconds CD 10/9/8/7/6 Mana cost 50/60/70/80/90 W: Boost the Ability Power and Attack Damage of self and mimicked Champion/Monster/Minion for 4 seconds CD 10/9/8/7/6 Mana cost 50/60/70/80/90 E: Boost the Armor and MR of self and mimicked Champion/Monster/Minion for 4 seconds CD 10/9/8/7/6 Mana cost 50/60/70/80/90 R: Active: Invisibly marks Champion/Monster/Minion for Mimick. Mark lasts until unit is dead or new Champion/Monster/Minion is marked. Active: Marking causes targeted mark and self to gain 10/25/40% health for 4 seconds. If health goes above Maximum health, new maximum is created for the 4 seconds. R can be toggled/activated at any level without needing to gain lvl 6 or learn Spell. R can only be used on small Monsters and Minions until first tier of R is learned R can be used on Allied Champions and large Minions and Monsters upon reaching Tier 1. R can be used on Super Minions and Dragon upon reaching Tier 2. R can be used on Baron and enemy Champions upon reaching Tier 3. Mimick: changes Self to look IDENTICAL to mimicked Champion/Monster/Minion for 4 seconds. Changes Abilities and additional passives to match those of Mimicked champion for 4 seconds. If cast on Champion, cooldowns of Q, W, E and R do not count down during mimicks activated duration of 4 seconds Cooldowns for activate/toggle are 12/8/6 seconds Mana cost is 70/150/230 Mimicked Enemy Champions do not receive Buffs. Mimicked Neutral Monsters and ally minions attack who you are attacking. Mimicked Enemy Minions change to allied minions for 4 seconds. so, is it too much? I appreciate any comments.[/quote]

[quote=Alcasea]i don't get it. your qwe skills all saif that "self and mimicked" does that mean if you use mimick on an ally creep and used your Q that creep would also get AS ? what about the objectives like BR and DR ? wouldn't that be a nice counter to the opposing team getting them ? just imagine BR getting increased armor, MR, damage and AS ? also what happens if you mimick BR ? would that mean that you would look like and attack like br ? all in all i think this champ is pretty messy.[/quote]

[quote=BuckoBonzai]you look like baron but dont get the base stats, refer to passive. also keep in mind, people try to steal baron anyway with smite, this doesnt change things very much considering that you would still have to live through the hell of 5 people attacking you. perhaps a global cooldown could be used on Q W and E to prevent a super insta buff of baron, but i still dont think 4 seconds of buffed baron are that significant. also consider that there would be a range limitation for R, perhaps something like vayne's autoattack range. Autoattack range for shapeshifter has a base stat of Thresh attack range. Imagine, mimicking an enemy champion from the bush and the ensuing confusion it could create. also imagine mimicking friendly squishy champion to draw attacks and absorb burst. Mimicking needs to get extremely mana expensive in order to keep it from being spammed as a heal. any other thoughts? if criticizing, suggest improvement please[/quote]

[quote=BuckoBonzai]If mimicking Baron and Dragon are unacceptable, then I would consider eliminating that mimick ability and making mimick of small monsters/minions available tier 0, large monsters minions available tier 1, super minions and ally champions tier 2, and enemy champions tier 3.[/quote]

[quote=Alcasea]oh so technically it's ultimate is the LOL version of DOTA's Morphling ? well if that is the case then i think that your QWE would be kinda Under powered since you have really no way of bullying your enemy or even damaging them. your only choice is just copy and copy and use them to harass which isn't wise since you have very limited mana early game. the QWE concept is still really messed up but i think i like the ultimate that can copy your teammate or an enemy. I would suggest changing his QWE into a) a damage skill b) a buff for you and your replica c) an escape mech or something that would really make your enemy annoyed. well that's all that i can think of.[/quote]

[quote=BuckoBonzai]ok, so those abilities are fine, the reason why i chose the buffs for self and mimicked monster etc. is because i wanted to make this champion viable as solo laner as well as jungler and support. jungler can obviously use the extra damage from a mimicked monster to help with clear time. top lane could use the minions in a sustained push way, kinda like how nunu can grant attack buff to large minion when pushing against cho gath. but i can see why QWE could be underpowered on minions and overpowered on champions. I have never played DOTA so i dont know what you were referring to but i can tell you, it would be insanely cool if a champions ultimate turned them into a copy of another champion, especially if you gain the abilities of that champion as long as Q W E are not on cooldown. I was thinking that maybe R should be some sort of Buff to self and copied champion/monster and retains original abilities if mimicking a monster/minion. can you imagine having a damage skill like WW or Darius but look like a small minion. lol leep thinking about this and pass it on. i would be so happy if i could copy their rengar from the bush.[/quote]