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Creator: Mashico May 20, 2013 2:10pm
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So i just hit lvl 30 and started doing ranked and so far i have won everyone of them but i am wondering if i should learn to play more roles and champs. The champs i know how to play are Annie, Caitlyn, Lissandra, Nidalee, Soraka, Teemo, and Twitch (my fav). which isnt that many champs so my questions are
1. should i take the time to learn top and jungle or just stick to bot and mid?
2. What are some good champs for top or jungle that have easy to understand guides?
3. When should i consider joining a ranked team?
4. I only know how to play 2 support champs so whats another good support champ i should get? (i own kayle, nidalee, soraka, morgana, and janna and Zilean)
5. Being new to ranked what are the diffrences game play wise and if there are any is there a guide i can read?
6. i hear people keep telling peeps not to auto attack so how to i turn off auto attack?
7. people keep telling me not to right click to kill minions so how am i supposed to kill minions if i dont attack?
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Hey Mashico
As I'm new as well i believe i may be able to answer some of your questions, as i main jungle and top lane.

1. Should you take the time? I would say no, you already know 3 spots and the chances that you wont get any of them are extremely low. Also you should spend more time mastering the spots/roles you already do, become a better player at that spot, so you will be able to own everyone.

2. Some top champions that i play and know of are:

- Renekton, he can easily hold his lane, and if you get a couple of kills from a gank or you opponent didn't b, early to mid game you will destroy, have had multiple games where I've be able to go 2v1 or even 3v1 with his ult.

- Malphite, Now i know he is a tank but he does really well at solo top lane, his passive, which gives him a shield based on his health, makes it very easy to last in lane. He also can poke at them with his slow. Also it never hurts to have another tank on the team, Makes it a lot harder for other team to get to your carys.

- Pantheon, This was my most favorite champion from lvl 8-20, he can deal so much damage and can be a real struggle in lane to deal with as he counters a lot of other champions. His combo can very easly drop an enemy from 75%-0% health instantly and if fed you could 100%-0 them.

For jungling, it is very had at the start till you learn the route and the way to go, when to gank, wards, counter ganking , and stealing the enemy's buffs and warding them. Not going to go in much detail as i did top lanes.

- Elise
- Xin
- Volibear
- olaf
- Amumu
- sejuani
- Trundle

These are a lot of different champions and are all built differently, they are the ones i mainly play.

3. When should you join a ranked team? When ever you feel comfortable, you could make one with your friends or go on the forums and find a serious team, all up to. It does come back to mastering a role and finding a team which needs someone for that role.

4. Blitzcrank, Maokli (which can also jungle) these to are extremely annoying to play against and can very easily set up plays and push the enemy adc and sup away.

5. Theres not to much difference obviously, you have the banning phase, but decide that it should be the same, tip is to play how you usually do, don't change just because it's ranked changing is when you start to make mistakes.

Sorry can't answer the last two points i hope this helped need any more help or questions just pm me on mobafire or in-game ( send me a pm on mobafire if you want my in-game) i will happily also help you learn jungle if you want to.
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Hey there Mashico. First and foremost, congrats on hitting level 30! Let's get down to business. Sorry for the wall of text that is sure to follow!

(If you just hit level 30, my personal advice would be not to play ranked for awhile. There is a TON to learn about the game that isn't even ABLE to be learned pre-30, such as the ever-discussed metagame, rune/mastery customization [and what that means for your laning phase] and a ton of other stuff). But, if you want to play ranked, and you aren't too worried if you end up being in a low tier while you learn, more power to you, and hopefully we can help you out a bit.

Before I delve into your questions, just in general, I think I would advise you to CUT DOWN your champion pool at first instead of expanding it. I honestly think the best way to be successful at this game for most people is to really focus on playing and improving with 1-3 champions. Some people claim this is boring, but 8/10 times I feel like that is because they are not working actively on improving the nuances of their champions. EVERY champion in league has some really neat tricks up their sleeve that you will only use properly with alot of playing. Instead of being bored, I'd be excited to try to find these out, and use them to my advantage. So if you want to really discuss finding a couple champions to really focus on, let me know, and I'd be happy to talk to you about it.

1. Take the time to understand the basics of top lane. It's a very isolated lane, and also a long lane. The playstyle of top lane and your role throughout the game is very unique. So just learn the basics in case you get stuck in a game having to go up there. Having said that, it's pretty rare that you'll get queued with 4 other people that ALL refuse to go top. Just like with champions, instead of worrying about learning new roles, I'd actually cut down on your "main roles". Looks like you mid, adc, and support. I'd pick one, and decide that you're gonna OWN that role, and then have a fallback option that you can also play effectively. I find that I can get one of those two roles most games, and it will really help you improve to actually have something to focus on.

2. If you are hell-bent on playing alot of top games, Renekton is so good right now. I'd just play him. Rumble is another great choice, not sure how hard his recent nerfs hit him though. Nidalee is always viable in skilled hands.

3. Whenever you find a team that you feel comfortable, like everyone on it, they like you, and you're working towards something!

4. I assume your two supports are Soraka and.... Nidalee? While some people play Nidalee support with a TON of success, I don't really recommend it. Soraka is fairly weak as well. Supports can do so many different things, it really depends what you are looking for. Sona still brings so much to a team. A skilled Janna makes me love life if I'm on her team, or hate it if I'm not. If you're more aggressive, Leona is a good initiator in lane and peeler in teamfights. And if you want just pure power and want to put some time in to learn how to make some amazing plays, Thresh is your man.

5. Unsure exactly what you're asking. Most people in ranked follow the meta - ADC and support bot, AP carry (or AD assassin) mid, Bruiser top, and jungler. Depending on what kind of normals you get placed in, you may notice a big difference or no difference at all between normal queue and ranked queue. People tend to rage more in ranked games, cuz it "matters". But again, I'm not sure what you are asking, so if you have questions let me know.

6 + 7. Also unsure exactly what problem you're running into. Are they telling you to just last hit? In that case, you don't want to "turn off auto attack", the idea is that you just want to hit minions that have very low health to kill them, so you get the gold, but your lane does not push. The farther your lane pushes, the more danger you need to be in to kill creeps. You should almost never be attacking creeps that have full health unless you want to push your lane. When people tell you "not to right click", im GUESSING they are just telling you to last hit. If you're asking about orbwalking or attack move, that's a much more lengthy discussion.

Anyway, hope this helps a little. Sorry for the long post. But let me know if you have questions.
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you don't really need to learn top or jungle really, as i would prefer to suggest that you would just increase the number of champions that you can use in the lanes you are good at. BUT these does not mean you shouldn't touch top. You should learn the very basics of top and just stick with it until you have the time to really want to improve in that lane. so technically this answer question 1

2. good top are Garen and Renekton and Rumble i still good in top but now needs more skills to counter act that nerf. BTW i main top and support so i can't give an advise to the jungle.

3. this depends on you as i haven't really joined one myself. just want to improve by myself first in my opinion.

4. as i said i main support and if you really wanted to learn how to support i would tell you to go with Taric. He is effective in getting a kill, disengage, engage, healing and gives a great buff to a team. also i don't recommend Janna as a starting support as she has a hard to use (skill wise) kit but nevertheless super effective when mastered.

5. just follow the meta ahahah no other advise really.

6. i think what they meant is not to auto attack if it is not a last hit. auto attacking creeps (which is not a last hit) will cause you to push your lane towards enemy tower which can be very bad. you can cancel AA by using S to stop any action.

7. no. 6 answers the question but you can also attack using A to get a better at last hitting.

well hope this helped. anyway good luck ^^
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thank you all rep given, your advice really helped alot i am practicing more of stutter stepping and last hitting and am getting better
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People before me wrote nearly everything you need, just some more ads:

- about last hitting, a good thing to do is: not stand still. if you stand still, and a minion approaches, you will auto attack it. if you keep moving, you will not attack the minions. if you are the support, don't auto attack the minions, attack them only if the adc is away and you have to defend the tower (a general advice of course, use your mind);
- generally, learn about every role, master one or two. don't be the one that ask how to lane to the others in a ranked (happens, so don't laugh);
- if you're still trying to master the supports, use someone easier and more supporting than Nidalee. As they said before, Sona and Taric would be a better choice, even if i suggest you to play a lot of games (with bot and normal) to improve the number of supports you can play (different adc needs different support, and different team composition needs again different support). Janna is a good choice if you know how to play him aggressively, i personally think she's wasted if you use her only for the utilities..
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Kuukai85 wrote:


- about last hitting, a good thing to do is: not stand still. if you stand still, and a minion approaches, you will auto attack it. if you keep moving, you will not attack the minions. if you are the support, don't auto attack the minions, attack them only if the adc is away and you have to defend the tower (a general advice of course, use your mind);


this is what i wanted to say but yeah english is not my native language ^^

Kuukai85 wrote:

Janna is a good choice if you know how to play "him" aggressively, i personally think she's wasted if you use her only for the utilities..


lol first of all it is "her" :) second janna is mostly played for her extreme utility. playing her aggressively early game would waste your mana quickly and push the lane hard. even spamming zephyr on an enemy is just like throwing pebbles to malphite. it is better saving your mana for disengaging enemy by using your tornado(Q) and using your zephyr only to catch up or slow down an enemy who is chasing/escaping and using your barrier to give your ADC an extra oomph (also at rank 5 the barrier is equivalent to lending your ADC a BF sword)

also i never really liked son. she lacks CC (except for her CC) which gives less utility in my opinion. BUT she has the best auras in the whole game (MS,Ar,Mr,heal)
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@Alcasea lol i wrote it while i was at work and i didn't check what i wrote..i'm not a native english too :D

About Janna, let me explain the misunderstanding. To play aggressively doesn't mean spam Q and W, it means build her like an APC and use abilities to defend the ADC DAMAGING the enemies. She scales very good with AP so if you start with Atene, Sorcs and Lich Bane, you'll have enough mana to use your abilities whenever you need, you will shield more than with an usual support build and, when ult, you will heal more than half of your ADC health (nearly full life with Athene, Lich Bane, Rabadonn, Zonya and Deathfire, you will give 1000hp of shield and 1300-1400 of HP with Monsoon, think about it ;) ).

Of course you can play her as a mere support, but why waste this power?

About Sona, she has 2 CC: the slow with power chord and the ult. The first is very spammable, it's easy to arrive to power chord, so you just need to understand the way to use her.. She also heals a lot, and her Q can do a lot of damage early game.. She's easy to play, hard to master, is not just a moving aura :D
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