Is denyeing really that bad?

[quote=DEWO]Best way to stop carries from last hitting is harrasing them. Why do ppl think too much 1v1 orientated. It is so easy to harras effectivly those carries. Ashe, corkie, cait they are all squishy as fuck... To deny the lasthit just watch your creeps and instead of denying just take advance of it. You see your creep getting low on hp and you know that ahse is going to last hit it.. make use of it. She will have to go for range to do so, and waste a white hit to do so, why not harrasing her than? DENY IS A BAD THING. Also you have your teammates... ashe mid is such an easy prey for a gank realy... and if your team just lets them farm as they please... than you are failing AT THE GAME. Dont look for stupid stuff like deny. There are just too many ways to counter early game carries other than making games 90 min long which will be even more OP for them. Carries tend to shine in late or VERY late games. And by denying you could simply give them even more... deny works only on early game. You cant run around the map just to deny creeps that that carry wants to kill.[/quote]

[quote=PotatisFarfar]Denyeing wont make the games 90 min long... And i wuld really wanna see some 1 try to herras corki mid, becouse i do about 90 dmg with one shot. And i will simply counterharras them to town, and if they are treying to herras u, they will get creep aggro takeing x-tra dmg it is easy to herras, yes! But if u are mid from start, u are prob squishy (if u don't go mord/cho) And it easy ending upp feeding. And u know how hard it is to gank mid? (when it is a deacent team) All they have to know is: If some1 missing? Ok then i will go kill wraith and come back! I don't see any of these "sulotions" viable i'm afraid. I don't think deneying is prob the way riot want it. But as it stands now. Ranged carrys can have such a easy way to just farm...[/quote]

[quote=Kael312]i want denying to be allowed, but killing your own minion draws aggro from all your minions, like hitting a champ, yes i quite like that[/quote]

[quote=TheWorldAsunder]As far as Ashe and Caitlyn mid - Yeah they can do it. You may think they shine in side lane, but Caitlyn NEEDS the extra money, as does ashe. If they're getting all the last hits in a solo lane, they can both pull off crazy ganks. Along with that, though their squishy, they both have ways to get out of ganks. Ashe should pretty much always have boots by her first buy so she can kite the hell out of any gank, and she can use her hawk to make sure nobody is coming before she extends for harass. Caitlyn has peacemaker, and range so long that it pretty much makes sure she never has to extend, and yet she can keep the damage on because of them. Along with that, they both have really great ganks on the side lanes. Ashe can initiate with arrow, and frost arrow so they can't escape. Caitlyn has headshot + peacemaker nuke and ult if they run. I really don't see what the fuss is about. ---- As far as denial. It's pretty much in the game now. I've been leaving karma's shield at level 1, and I'm constantly able to shield minions and deny creep kills on the last hit[/quote]

[quote=Freki]yeah my last solo mid with cait was quite successfuly, but it was against an ashe. So answer this: What the fuck can you do against a Lux, Anivia that goes for strength of spirit, saphire and 2 HP ? You can't compete with this kind of harass. Or a Kat mid with doran's shield ? Solo Mid is really tricky now for AD carries.[/quote]