Ryze: Koreans New build

[quote=samgoeslol]well wht ive seen in soloqueue/lcs was early spirit visage into void staff ppl love getting an early void on him; if ahead even before spirit visage. No more fh on ryze if you get sv. instead get GA as a def item. Or zhon ;) so tear roa sv arch void and ga is the build ive seen ppl use alot. It merges banshees and frozen heart into one fairly cheap item thus leaving a slot for voidstaff ;) greez sam[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Well, in the next patch, [[Spirit Visage]] costs 2600 gold and then this will be questionable again. But the item itself will also be a lot stronger. You also loose [[banshee's veil]] as it no longer as mana, so there aren't many choises.[/quote]

[quote=DarkPercy]Well yeah obviously CDR is really powerful on him since his passive makes his damage scale exponentially with CDR... Also because of his Q passive the CDR you get makes you reach 40% instantly and for those who didn't know, going from 20% to 40% CDR gives you significantly more damage than going from 0% to 20% CDR. So yeah CDR rly gewd but I honestly would pick up [[glacial shroud]] or maybe even a full [[frozen heart]] instead of [[spirit visage]]. Idk FH just feels like a much more powerful item, especially late game. I'm no pro [[ryze]] tho. And koreanz aren't exactly bad too. lol EDIT: Oh god my eyes. 20% CDR does not equal +20% damage. Please guys...[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark]it's somewhere around 200% more damage, right?[/quote]

[quote=samgoeslol]well its more like 25% assuming you can keep casting and you never run outta mana and if you assume you have 20% cdr without before buying another 20% then its actually around 33% for the second batch of cdr (thats because it stacks additively up to the cap)[/quote]

[quote=utopus][url=http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Varnagas/AP_scaling_per_second]The link's a little old[/url], but since the author posted it after the ryze mana ratio nerf, the math should still hold. Apparently, 40% CDR on ryze yields a 100% increase in AP damage/second. I would imagine getting the 20% CDR from [[spirit visage]] & 10% CDR from [[overload]] would yield a damage/second increase of perhaps even more than 25%. It could even be upwards of 40-60% I'm too lazy to do the math myself though haha[/quote]

[quote=samgoeslol]no 40% cdr equals a 66.66...% increase in dps. suppose you deal 100 dmg in 100 s then after 40% cdr you deal 100 dmg in 60s equated up to 100s thats 166.6666 dmg -> 2/3 or 66.66% increase in dps xD from 0 to 20% 100d 100s -> 100d 80s -> 125d 100s -> 25% 20 to 40 100d 80s -> 100d 60s -> 133.333d 80s -> 33.3% increase in dps so yah its crazy stronk xD[/quote]

[quote=utopus]But but but [[arcane mastery]]?[/quote]

[quote=samgoeslol]oh yah forgot about that. but that doesnt rly matter since it scales even harder with cdr -> cdr even better:immediately max out[/quote]

[quote=cooper56]is korean build better or worse now that Spirit Visage has better stats but is more money more of late game item not mid game.[/quote]