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Playing ADC sucks now and I will explain why.
1) Supports have such a huge influence on the laning phase. In the past it was also the case that supports were more impactful than ADCs in lane, but now it's getting to a ridiculous level. A damagey support like Annie can practically instantly kill both enemy laners and tanky supports are impossible to auto down while providing high amounts of CC.
2) This wouldn't be so bad, but supports now also scale crazily. You can literally lose 1v1 to a damage support at most stages of the game and meanwhile tank supports are getting even more impossible to kill. When support Annie has a DFG, Void and Deathcap and Taric has a Randuin's, Frozen Heart and Spirit Visage, good luck doing **** to them. Supports now act as an additional AP carry/tank throughout the game.
3) Relating to point 2, there are now too many threats in the game for an AD carry to deal with. Every single member of the enemy team is now able to potentially instakill you and/or tank your damage for long periods of time. Even if you're a god at positioning, engaging in teamfights is an absolute ****ing nightmare and you're going to get screwed over hard if your team isn't on the ball.
4) Only a select few ADCs are even possible to play right now. If you're not playing something broken like Lucian, Jinx or Sivir you might as well just bend over, and almost every ADC pick gets wrecked 1v1 by every other role with little chance to escape.
In summary ADC feels like it's now the least impactful role in the game. I can't do **** in most lategames anymore when the enemy team is entirely made up of unkillable bruisers or AP carries who can one shot me, and I'm entirely reliant on support making plays to get through laning. Why should I bother with tediously farming for 30 minutes and STILL being the least impactful member of the team when I could just play a support, not farm at all, and make fun plays all game getting a ton of kills?
Just my opinion but yeah fk this game.
1) Supports have such a huge influence on the laning phase. In the past it was also the case that supports were more impactful than ADCs in lane, but now it's getting to a ridiculous level. A damagey support like Annie can practically instantly kill both enemy laners and tanky supports are impossible to auto down while providing high amounts of CC.
2) This wouldn't be so bad, but supports now also scale crazily. You can literally lose 1v1 to a damage support at most stages of the game and meanwhile tank supports are getting even more impossible to kill. When support Annie has a DFG, Void and Deathcap and Taric has a Randuin's, Frozen Heart and Spirit Visage, good luck doing **** to them. Supports now act as an additional AP carry/tank throughout the game.
3) Relating to point 2, there are now too many threats in the game for an AD carry to deal with. Every single member of the enemy team is now able to potentially instakill you and/or tank your damage for long periods of time. Even if you're a god at positioning, engaging in teamfights is an absolute ****ing nightmare and you're going to get screwed over hard if your team isn't on the ball.
4) Only a select few ADCs are even possible to play right now. If you're not playing something broken like Lucian, Jinx or Sivir you might as well just bend over, and almost every ADC pick gets wrecked 1v1 by every other role with little chance to escape.
In summary ADC feels like it's now the least impactful role in the game. I can't do **** in most lategames anymore when the enemy team is entirely made up of unkillable bruisers or AP carries who can one shot me, and I'm entirely reliant on support making plays to get through laning. Why should I bother with tediously farming for 30 minutes and STILL being the least impactful member of the team when I could just play a support, not farm at all, and make fun plays all game getting a ton of kills?
Just my opinion but yeah fk this game.
She killed me.
I'm ok with that. I hated the passive farm off for 25 minutes, unless the jungler ganks of S3 bot lane.
What? I don't know which season 3 you are talking about but the season 3 I know and love wasn't like that at all lol
Maybe adcs are gonna be that role that serves no purpose/gets outclassed, the same fate roamers had to cope with.
If that happens I'm probably done with this game. >.>
THIS.
Edit: For some stupidly strange reason, I've been having lots more fun in s4 than in s3. The overall state of the game is worse, but I enjoy it more this way. Maybe the game just needs a change. Maybe adcs are gonna be that role that serves no purpose/gets outclassed, the same fate roamers had to cope with.
I guess many supportish players don't use the utility tree that much anymore because either they go for offense of defense points and further I hate the new early game itemization. Why did I bought three
On the other hand, everyone else picks either Annie or Taric and does the same damn thing.
If nothing else, I can KS my lane partner all I want and he won't care because Annie or Taric with gold are terrifying.
It is ridiculous how full APish supports wreck, while traditional supports lose impact.
Bottom lane has become just as a brute lane as top lane is :/
Actually, every single one of the new gold generation ideas have been brought up by players at one point in the past.
Last hitting to share gold, passively gaining gold when a minion died, etc.
Even the "this passive will be disabled for 10s after you last hit a minion" was mentioned before.
I wouldn't discount the likelihood that Riot and their playerbase come up with the same ideas independently. I've seen Rioters say flat out that every idea in a thread has already been discussed months ago by Riot staff.
At least in MMOs, it's not uncommon to have a stat that only increases healing rather than having healing and magic power in the same stat.
ADCs really might as well just be named "Ranged Tower Poker" atm. And in that case, you'd might as well play a Lich Bane AP mid and be the Ranged Tower Poker + AP all in one.