Do you think Vayne is still good?

[quote=Omnislash GG]What are you on about.. A good Vayne can easily carry games now because of how much health champions have now. She's probably stronger than she's ever been, as long as she gets a few kills early.[/quote]

[quote=drakon136]Of course a good Vayne can carry. A good Vayne has pretty much always been able to carry. However, she has to get to the point where she can carry, which in the meta of Jinx/Lucian/Sivir is quite difficult.[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian][quote=Omnislash GG] What are you on about.. A good Vayne can easily carry games now because of how much health champions have now. She's probably stronger than she's ever been, as long as she gets a few kills early. [/quote] It's hard to get kills when you get smashed by every common bot lane champion.[/quote]

[quote=Azalea]In my low ELO of Silver I, [[Vayne]] does fine tbh. But that's in Silver, not too sure about Plat+[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]I'm in Silver I and no one even picks Vayne anymore. >_>[/quote]

[quote=XeresAce][quote=Azalea] In my low ELO of Silver I, [[Vayne]] does fine tbh. But that's in Silver, not too sure about Plat+ [/quote] o.o Silver I too and every time I go against a [[vayne]] and I play botlane I have the easiest time ever She can't fight you back early, she gets instagibbed by [[annie]] and can't really 1v1 [[fiddle]] or [[leona]], can't deal with [[Jinx]], [[sivir]] or [[lucian]] in lane.. :c There's still that uhm, special.. person that bans [[Vayne]] occasionally though LOL[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard][quote=XeresAce] There's still that uhm, special.. person that bans [[Vayne]] occasionally though LOL [/quote] I know that feel.[/quote]

[quote=NorthernRedStar]Is she viable in [i]pro scene[/i]? Not really, she gets taxed by too hard early by the current FotM champions. Doublelift likely meant that she's bad specifically in organized gameplay. Is she viable in [i]yoloQ[/i]? Sure, once and if you get past the early crawl. I've been helping both [[Vayne]]s and [[Caitlyn]]'s alike against each other quite a lot. [[Vayne]]'s weaker early game is very much noticeable now that the lane is pretty much "fair" 2v2. [[Leona]] pains her, Annie even more so. But if you counterpick a counterpick to offer your [[Vayne]] a safer lane phase, and her rolling, she's still one of the best ADCs late game. [[Jinx]] is the day's #1 FotM though. And many like to still play [[Caitlyn]]. A slight buff could be cool, but she's fine as she is right now.[/quote]

[quote=DisturbedFox]She gets wrecked in almost every lane, however if your arms grow from right places you can still do amazing stuff with her. I personally like to start doran's shield sometimes.[/quote]

[quote=xIchi]Vayne's lategame is still her lategame. Just the laning phase hase become ridiculous for her. So Dorans Shield is pretty reasonable and I've been seeing more and more Vaynes starting like that.[/quote]