Do you think Vayne is still good?

[quote=Janitsu][quote=Bryun] She's weaker now. :,( Playing [[Vayne]] against [[Annie]] support is hell. [/quote] I guess you could use these sentences even if the title said Vapora instead of Vayne doe.[/quote]

[quote=I post stuff][quote=Qersidon] So all in all [[Vayne]] is still good outside of laning phase. [/quote] Any late game champion that has poor laning phase is good at low ELO because games drag out allowing you to reach your full potential. I dunno about [[Vayne]] though. She is extremely hard to play and I'm bad at this game, so I just stick with [[poppy]].[/quote]

[quote=cooper56]vayne is still good in top 5 solo que but at bottom of top 5. Dont worry she wont be number 5 long its how leauge works riot will nerf Jinx, Lucian sivir more and draven which is already starting be seen more will be top tier again its how game works draven was weak when his passive was changed but now all adcs got nerfed but him so he getting better its arepeat and rotation of top champs. 1. Jinx 2. Lucian 3. Sivir 4. Draven 5. Vayne[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]Where's ezreal in that list ._.[/quote]

[quote=Qersidon][quote=Embracing] Where's ezreal in that list ._. [/quote] He is not that strong compared to others, and even if you get fed you have a really hard time carrying the game or you cant carry at all.[/quote]

[quote=luizdeh][[ezreal]] is suffering. He's still very strong and hard to kill (if played right). People just forget about him for some reason. IMO he's one of the best options right now, since he can lane safely and has a decent mid/late game. Also, anything not FotM gets my full support. [[vayne]] sucks if she doesn't reach her necessary hypercarry status. I LOVE seeing a [[vayne]] pick when I'm [[olaf]]. So easy. That being said, I agree with other people's statements that in low elo people don't understand what they need to do to shut her down. They even ban her still. Also, low elo [[lucian]]s SUCK. Seriously. Wesley Snipes is all about pushing and taking objectives. Low elo knows no objective other than getting high kill scores.[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]o-o Just saying most Chinese pros consider Ezreal to be around low ~ mid tier 1 (if put on a tier list) and Vayne to be high~mid tier 2. Vayne definitely isn't among the top 5 ad's right now with her horrible lane phase.[/quote]

[quote=xIchi]The Tierlist would be rather Jinx / Lucian / Sivir Varus / Ezreal Draven is strong, but he is rather borderline D:[/quote]

[quote=Qersidon][quote=xIchi] The Tierlist would be rather Jinx / Lucian / Sivir Varus / Ezreal Draven is strong, but he is rather borderline D: [/quote] [[Draven]], if played right can stop any of the top tier adc-s.If you combine him with a support like [[Leona]] it's a very strong lane. [[Ezreal]] is good because of his escape and safe laning phase but you can't do much with him late-game.I played him several games and at 35,40 minutes he becomes useless against tanks.[/quote]

[quote=MyBloodisBlack]Personally I don't rate her as an ADC, yes she has a good damage base however something is always a miss with her and I just find that all the other ADCs are just better full stop.[/quote]