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[quote=Searz][quote=Kazega] pretty much jsut started playing... I have maybe ten or so games in PvP. The thing I am trying to figure out right now is what makes each class strong and playing to that. I'm interested in The Rogue Hunter Druid and Mage decks.[/quote] I've posted this before, so I'll just re-post the tips and decks for new players. [spoiler=A few tips for playing the game(click to show):] Manage your resources properly. Cards are resources. You're not just paying mana for a minion, you're paying a card(s) for it too. That is why cards like Wisp and Moonfire are terrible. Cards with card draw are a different matter of course, they're 'free' in terms of the card cost so to speak and only cost you mana. Minions on the field are resources you've put into play. Try to keep a hold of those resources as well as you can, even if that means sacrificing things like health. Try to use your Hero Power as often as you can. If there's a good play you can make with it: DO IT. Using your hero power effectively and often is a good way to conserve cards. Always try to make use of as much mana as you can, without playing any cards that you know will be easily countered of course. Try to avoid having more than 3 minions on the field to avoid getting fucked by AOE and [url=http://www.hearthhead.com/card=734/mind-control-tech]Mind Control Tech[/url]. Never buff a minion on a turn you're not attacking with it unless you absolutely have to. Always try to make favorable trades happen. You want to trade your 2/1 unit for his 3/2 unit, your 3/2 unit for his 4/3 unit and your 4/3 unit for his 5/4 unit and so on, because you're making him lose more stats than you do. For classes like Mages, Rogues and Druids you can also add one damage to the equation from your hero power. A 2/1 (likely cheap 1 cost unit) suddenly trades for a 4/3 unit (likely 3-4 cost). Sacrificing health, especially for favorable trades is not something you should be gun-shy of. Almost always focus on board advantage over damage to the enemy hero. I.e: try to kill of ALL enemy minions when you can do so effectively. In the case of the enemy having a favorable trade for your minion (when he can trade his 2/1 for your 3/2 for example) you should avoid making the trade As a general sequence of actions you should try to do this every turn: 1. Look at how much mana you have. 2. Look at what favorable plays/trades you can make and how much they cost. 3. Then think about how you can combo your remaining mana as efficiently as possible, to make use of all the mana you have(obviously without playing anything that is easily countered). Also try to make use of your hero power wherever you can in mid to lategame where you ususally have the mana to support using it. The ideal amount of mana left after every turn is 0. 4. When you're done planning all of the above put your thoughts/plan into play. [b]ALWAYS play cards with card draw first[/b], then make adjustments to the plan if you draw something useful. Then make the most important plays happen and then make the less important plays happen last, so that you minimize your chance of disaster in the case of errors in the calculations.[/spoiler] Here are a few super ghetto decks for new players. These are obviously far from optimal because of the hard card restraints, but they should be far better than any of the basic decks you start out with. The only cards you don't get for free that I include in these decks are the [url=http://www.hearthhead.com/card=251/loot-hoarder]Loot Hoarders[/url] and the [url=http://www.hearthhead.com/card=778/harvest-golem]Harvest Golems[/url]. Those are probably the two best neutral common cards in the game. They can be run in every single deck and are extremely common in top-tier play right now. Craft them. Craft them right now. (click the crafting button in "My Collection" and disenchant a card you're not using to get 100dust for two free common crafts) [url=http://www.hearthhead.com/deckbuilder#cMfI7Mnv7Mzt7MiS7MsY7MVd7Mdq7Mmh7Mcn7Mmf7MmU7zbv7MaP7zah7zd47MzV7zuc8q]Druid[/url]: mulligan (replace) all cards that cost more than 3 at the start of the game, unless you get an Innervate. Then you should keep 4 cost minions around (like Senjin Shieldmasta and Chillwind Yeti). Savage Roar gives your hero 2 attack too. [url=http://www.hearthhead.com/deckbuilder#cMfI7Mf67Mzq7Mnv7Mzt7MRm7MRL7zho7Mmr7Mdq7zrn7Mmf7MmU7MaP7zah7zbP7MrI8M]Paladin[/url]: remember to only buff units on the turn you can attack with them. [url=http://www.hearthhead.com/deckbuilder#cMfI7zkv7zsL7Mnv7Mzt7MsY7MVG7ziz7Mqd7Mdz7Mdq7zqA7Mmf7MmU7Mzh7MaP7MoH8R]Mage[/url]: you can use your hero power on your Gurubashi Berserker to buff him. Try to keep your Kobold Geomancer for when you're casting a spell that deals damage. He increases damage dealt by the spell by 1 and that can have some pretty big effects when using for example Arcane Explosion. [url=http://www.hearthhead.com/deckbuilder#cMfI7Mnv7Mzt7MsY7MVd7Mdz7Mdq7Mrf7Mmf7Mj57MmU7MaA7MaP7MAo7MAa8V]Priest[/url]: this is probably the worst of the decks, but feel free to try it. Make sure to use your hero power on your minions a lot when applicable.[/quote]

[quote=YayaFTW]I am here to confess a sin. I only went 4-3 with a shaman deck. I had 4 Fire elementals, 1 Earth elemental, 2 Lightning bolts, 2 lightning storms, 2 Harvest golems, 2 senjin shieldmaster, Onyxia, Hex, The black Knight, and excellent mana curve How can I be this bad...[/quote]

[quote=LevasK]YayaFTW-Do you know some sort of "Get great cards" code in Arena?[/quote]

[quote=YayaFTW][quote=LevasK] YayaFTW-Do you know some sort of "Get great cards" code in Arena? [/quote] Nah, but the RNGods are my homies[/quote]

[quote=Kazega][quote=Searz] [quote=Kazega] pretty much jsut started playing... I have maybe ten or so games in PvP. The thing I am trying to figure out right now is what makes each class strong and playing to that. I'm interested in The Rogue Hunter Druid and Mage decks.[/quote] I've posted this before, so I'll just re-post the tips and decks for new players. [spoiler=A few tips for playing the game(click to show):] Manage your resources properly. Cards are resources. You're not just paying mana for a minion, you're paying a card(s) for it too. That is why cards like Wisp and Moonfire are terrible. Cards with card draw are a different matter of course, they're 'free' in terms of the card cost so to speak and only cost you mana. Minions on the field are resources you've put into play. Try to keep a hold of those resources as well as you can, even if that means sacrificing things like health. Try to use your Hero Power as often as you can. If there's a good play you can make with it: DO IT. Using your hero power effectively and often is a good way to conserve cards. Always try to make use of as much mana as you can, without playing any cards that you know will be easily countered of course. Try to avoid having more than 3 minions on the field to avoid getting fucked by AOE and [url=http://www.hearthhead.com/card=734/mind-control-tech]Mind Control Tech[/url]. Never buff a minion on a turn you're not attacking with it unless you absolutely have to. Always try to make favorable trades happen. You want to trade your 2/1 unit for his 3/2 unit, your 3/2 unit for his 4/3 unit and your 4/3 unit for his 5/4 unit and so on, because you're making him lose more stats than you do. For classes like Mages, Rogues and Druids you can also add one damage to the equation from your hero power. A 2/1 (likely cheap 1 cost unit) suddenly trades for a 4/3 unit (likely 3-4 cost). Sacrificing health, especially for favorable trades is not something you should be gun-shy of. Almost always focus on board advantage over damage to the enemy hero. I.e: try to kill of ALL enemy minions when you can do so effectively. In the case of the enemy having a favorable trade for your minion (when he can trade his 2/1 for your 3/2 for example) you should avoid making the trade As a general sequence of actions you should try to do this every turn: 1. Look at how much mana you have. 2. Look at what favorable plays/trades you can make and how much they cost. 3. Then think about how you can combo your remaining mana as efficiently as possible, to make use of all the mana you have(obviously without playing anything that is easily countered). Also try to make use of your hero power wherever you can in mid to lategame where you ususally have the mana to support using it. The ideal amount of mana left after every turn is 0. 4. When you're done planning all of the above put your thoughts/plan into play. [b]ALWAYS play cards with card draw first[/b], then make adjustments to the plan if you draw something useful. Then make the most important plays happen and then make the less important plays happen last, so that you minimize your chance of disaster in the case of errors in the calculations.[/spoiler] Here are a few super ghetto decks for new players. These are obviously far from optimal because of the hard card restraints, but they should be far better than any of the basic decks you start out with. The only cards you don't get for free that I include in these decks are the [url=http://www.hearthhead.com/card=251/loot-hoarder]Loot Hoarders[/url] and the [url=http://www.hearthhead.com/card=778/harvest-golem]Harvest Golems[/url]. Those are probably the two best neutral common cards in the game. They can be run in every single deck and are extremely common in top-tier play right now. Craft them. Craft them right now. (click the crafting button in "My Collection" and disenchant a card you're not using to get 100dust for two free common crafts) [url=http://www.hearthhead.com/deckbuilder#cMfI7Mnv7Mzt7MiS7MsY7MVd7Mdq7Mmh7Mcn7Mmf7MmU7zbv7MaP7zah7zd47MzV7zuc8q]Druid[/url]: mulligan (replace) all cards that cost more than 3 at the start of the game, unless you get an Innervate. Then you should keep 4 cost minions around (like Senjin Shieldmasta and Chillwind Yeti). Savage Roar gives your hero 2 attack too. [url=http://www.hearthhead.com/deckbuilder#cMfI7Mf67Mzq7Mnv7Mzt7MRm7MRL7zho7Mmr7Mdq7zrn7Mmf7MmU7MaP7zah7zbP7MrI8M]Paladin[/url]: remember to only buff units on the turn you can attack with them. [url=http://www.hearthhead.com/deckbuilder#cMfI7zkv7zsL7Mnv7Mzt7MsY7MVG7ziz7Mqd7Mdz7Mdq7zqA7Mmf7MmU7Mzh7MaP7MoH8R]Mage[/url]: you can use your hero power on your Gurubashi Berserker to buff him. Try to keep your Kobold Geomancer for when you're casting a spell that deals damage. He increases damage dealt by the spell by 1 and that can have some pretty big effects when using for example Arcane Explosion. [url=http://www.hearthhead.com/deckbuilder#cMfI7Mnv7Mzt7MsY7MVd7Mdz7Mdq7Mrf7Mmf7Mj57MmU7MaA7MaP7MAo7MAa8V]Priest[/url]: this is probably the worst of the decks, but feel free to try it. Make sure to use your hero power on your minions a lot when applicable. [/quote] Not really what I asked. I've played magic for a while so I understand the basics of card games. I don't need how to play. I just was asking about each class and what makes them strong and unique.[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=Kazega] Not really what I asked. I've played magic for a while so I understand the basics of card games. I don't need how to play. I just was asking about each class and what makes them strong and unique.[/quote] You were a tad bit unclear, but okay, I'll try to answer that. Here are some archetypes that fit each of the classes. Hunter: rushdown, combo and control. Warlock: aggro, control and shields up/big-hand-lock(which is a control variant). Warlocks are very versatile. Druid: can do pretty much any archetype well. Excels at mid to lategame decks. Priest: control. Paladin: aggro and lategame sustain. Warrior: control, self-damage and legendaries (aka wincondition-city). OTK still works to some degree, but nowhere near the level of charging Molten Giants. Mage: aggro and control. Control doesn't work nearly as well after the nerfs tho. Rogue: combo, control and cantrip. Control and combo could be seen as the same as many in that archetype go for that combination, but I feel like just putting it as one would be pigeon-holing. Shaman: midrange and OTK. (most top-tier decks are both) Now, do you understand the terms I used or would you like me to explain them further? Mages and Warlocks have hands down the best hero powers in the game. Druid has the most balanced(as in versatile and useful) class-specific cards right now, that makes them really, really strong. Other than that I think you'll have to ask more specific questions if this did not answer your question.[/quote]

[quote=drakon136]Just drafted what might be one of the best decks I'm gonna get for a while. I feel pretty happy, especially about drafting Ysera pretty early. [img]http://i.imgur.com/H3PeX8k.png[/img] Probably not as good as I think it is, but hey.[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=drakon136] Probably not as good as I think it is, but hey.[/quote] It's pretty good except for the Dire Wolf, Stormwind Knight and dual Mind Controls.[/quote]

[quote=drakon136]They were all the best options of the three, so I had to take what I could get. Also, I just found out that taunt doesn't work on stealthed units AFTER losing a match. Damn, I'm stupid. EDIT: Suddenly maintenance. Great![/quote]

[quote=drakon136][img]http://i.imgur.com/PR5kqoY.png[/img] I'm okay with this.[/quote]