I won't talk about the general content, they are ample enough despite the look, a heading here or there + some bullet will fix it nicely. But this is just information, what new ranked player need is a bit more than that. I can't put my hands on it, but I think something is really lacking, IDK but I'll tell you when I can name it, atm it's just gut felling.

There should be no confusion at all about botlane synergies. It has nothing whatsoever to do with your picks.

Botlane synergies should tell you about who is strong against who in a matchup and how well your given champ will work with your laning partner. I just basically spam 1-3 support champs (mostly just Leona), but it still means I have to be aware of how well my champion will work with my ADC. I can't just pick Soraka to lane with an Ezreal without knowing that I need to give him mana constantly instead of using it to harass.

Well, then thanks for your comments, i will re-read them and then try to consider what you said and change my guide accordingly.
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You're not really sounding rude, just arrogant.

I did actually read the guide FIRST and that made me question your ranking - only then I looked up your profile on League (it's not a good thing when people make me question their rating really). I also had a look at your Season 3 stuff just to be sure that you actually played ranked in the past. Anyway, you have my opinion on your guide. I don't like it because I think a lot of the information is incorrect or irrelevant (most of the things I already mentioned).

Has nothing to do with me beeing hypocrite or not. You said Jarvan isn't played anymore and I said he still is beeing played, just not at higher ELO. Nowhere in my guide I say he is the best or should be picked or anything, i just use him and as example to explain Initiation, as he very obvious in this way. What exactly are you complaining about? That i mentionned him? That I said that other champs are used at different ELO?

I can write a guide about whatever I want to, as long as the information I provide is usefull. I ahve no problem with you commenting on the information, actually i appreciate eevery feedback on the guide refering to what i should mention and what not.

What I don't like is that you think that by looking 2 minutes at my lolking profile you can say if i am a ble to provide this kind of information or not. Don't judge palyers on their profile. Judge me on what I say. IF you think the information I provide is wrong or misleading please tell me exactly what you mean.

Just for your information: The reason I wrote this guide is cause i recently watched my little brother starting to play ranked and spectates his first 20 matches in ranked. I noticed that some players don't even know the basics and decided that there should be a guide for this. This Guide is NOT meant to be a Tier list on what chmapions are currently stron, as that would have to be updated regulary. I nowhere state that the Champion Icons next to the Role are the strongest. They are used as examples for the respective role thats all.

Hope I don't sound rude, im just don't like to get judged without you having any information about me apart from my last 10 games.

Target group is ********. The meta is defined by the best champions at the very moment, only occasionally a meta is formed as a countermeta, basically a playstyle that completely counters the old meta, which means it shouldn't be picked at all times. (For example, trundle is part of that countermeta, he counters all pure tanks top)

It is completely irrelevant at what ELO you look, the best champions are the best champions, no exceptions. Besides that, it is very hypocrite of you to actually go with champions that are purely good at high elo (like Leblanc, Trundle) because bronze players just don't know how to play them.

EDIT: Also towards the part about you not playing ranked: You just cannot write a guide for people who like to get started with ranked if you don't constantly play ranked to feel the impact of every change.

I don't really think this should be part of the discussion. I haven't played ranked this season due to the fact that i am currently writing exams and know that i won't be able to perform as well as i want to, cause i don't practise enough. Last season i got to gold, which should definitly be enough to give advice to people who are starting ranked. I generally think you misunderstood what this guide is for.
This guide is for people who are new to rankeds. The purpose is, that everybody has at least this knowledge so everybone can work together.



Yep, those are the meta champs at LCS and gold or higher. Which again, is not where this guide is aimed at. Play 3 or 4 games at Bronze level (my brother startet palying recently and i ahd the pleasure to wathc him) and i can assure you that jarvane gets picked, while pantheon gets laughed at. Again, pls keep in mind who this guide is for


Nope, i may need to make that more clear if apperently it gets missunderstood. The champions mentionned are Champions that work well in that composition. That doesnt mean that all 5 champs have to be there. Nevertheless i hope you will agree that the champions mentionned (Nida, Jayce, mundo, cait) are not a bad pick up if you see that your team is tending to pick poke champs.


"Counnter:" was meant as gets countered by, which gets pretty obvious if you read through the whole part i think.


No it's not. It needs way less team synergy to ping someone and all jump in at a similar time, than kiting around the enemy, engaging and running away just to engage again. If you don't trust me there is an intervieuw with (at least i think) Zionspartan talking about which compositions are good for new teams and he mentionns it aswell.

That's why teleport is an icon ;)

Overall i think most of your arguments don't seem to aknowledge the target group of this guide. I will however consider your other points :)

Thanks for reading :)

I had a look at your summoner profile and I am really wondering who you are to give people advice on ranked when you have barely played ranked this season. Current meta chapter is out-of-date and some of the advice is quite odd.

For example, the meta-champs for the jungle right now are: and possibly as well. surely isn't a meta champion anymore.
Midlane is somewhat odd as well. just got nerfed and definitely isn't a top-tier mid now, same goes for zed. On the other hand, champions like are making their appearance in the mid lane.

Have a look at competitive or high-elo play to see what the current meta really is :)


Also, as sirell pointed out compositions don't really matter in ranked, the only thing that does is who plays their champion the best and has the best teamwork. Not only that, your compositions suggest that ' ' make a good team, while that is questionable, especially for the other compositions listed. Also, the main downside is that it is weak against hard engage (you mention it as a counter but it is a weakness as well). And heavy engage teams don't need team synergy? That's a joke. Splitpush comps usually run teleport so it can always be a 5v5.

Thanks, for your opinion :) I'll be working on cleaning it up and structure it better.

I am not sure about your other remark though. On the one hand you say that i don't meantion botlane compositions, on the other hand you say synergys don't matter that much anyways. Would you like to have more or less explanations on synergy in this guide? I wan't sure what you were trying to say.

Also I changed the Title regarding your comment on the "Everything" part. You are right, i was trying to get the basics donw, not everything.

EDIT: I have now finished the missing Chapters and would appreciate a second read-through and any comments on it :)

^ Exactly this.

Archiving removes it from the public sphere, but giving the direct link to people still works.

As for the content itself, I feel it's pretty useless. If I read this article as a newbie to ranked, I still wouldn't really have a grasp of what ranked is actually like. It's basically nowhere near the 'everything you need to know' standard.

For a start, it doesn't even mention anything about botlane compositions.

And the actual fact that most high-tier players don't really care about synergy or any of the pick and ban phase and just play their best.

In addition, the way the information is presented to me is just so messy and unstructured that I honestly just don't know what I'm reading.

Archive a guide will exclude the guide from public eye + refrain people from downvote and commenting. Your friend could directly see it if you give them the link or if people check your profile under the archived build tab. It's far easier to handle those problem by archiving it, and easier for people to scout, your choice though.
PS: frankly there's hardly anything to give feedback to. But I look forward to the finished version.

As i said, i am discussing it with friends and i need them to be able to see it. The guide will be finished soon anyways.
I would be happy if you could give feedback to the actual content :)