TheKut wrote:
"The flaws you see in others are often flaws you deny in yourself."
I get your point but it dosnt make sense since no one is together when said thing happens. I always try to ping places to rally and give requests via chat to rally up and go as a team.
Then go with them. Stick to them like a parasite. You accomplish less by watching him die. If there's other objectives to be taking, why not take them?
The mistakes your team makes, are the mistakes the enemy team makes as well. It's the trick not to focus on what the hell your team is doing but rather to abuse those mistakes the enemy makes. Try to communicate to your team as best as your can through pings (ping spam helps awareness, even though it's annoying it is the best way to) and try to make sure you're all on the same page. Sure, there will always be **** games but if you focus on what you can do to improve you'll start to climb over time anyway.
Leadership. If you want your team to listen to you, then make sound decisions that pay off early game. For example, making a call that leads to a kill, dragon, or tower. Having a high K/D score helps as well, as a lot of players look at that as an indication of your skill.
As for WHY it breaks down mid-game, it's because there are no clear goals, except "take the towers". That's why you need a leader to be able to make the calls that take those towers down one-by-one.
As for WHY it breaks down mid-game, it's because there are no clear goals, except "take the towers". That's why you need a leader to be able to make the calls that take those towers down one-by-one.
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Sometimes leadership just won't work. I've had games with a 4-man premade where I was the only one who won lane, I got a 1v2 double kill early game, had most CS in the game, was 4-0-1 by the time mid-game came around, I kept getting kills but STILL no one would listen to me and one dude even called me out saying all my kills were snipes or KS or whatever the **** that moron insisted on.
One of the very few times I actually raged, even if it was mild. *******. His teammates ignored me, I guess they realized what a freaking idiot that guy was. STILL they wouldn't listen to my calls.
That's when I just say 'defend, I'll split' or 'group mid, I'll split' and hope they actually know how to siege/defend.
One of the very few times I actually raged, even if it was mild. *******. His teammates ignored me, I guess they realized what a freaking idiot that guy was. STILL they wouldn't listen to my calls.
That's when I just say 'defend, I'll split' or 'group mid, I'll split' and hope they actually know how to siege/defend.
So I like to assume myself as leader, going around to call my team on sieging towers or initiating, and taking any other objectives. While this might me good, after a while usually one guy will say "stfu noob" or something along that line. It just doesn't work, unless there is really great communication or mutual consent that you are taking the role of a leader.
I'm assuming this is solo queue.
You can't implement specific "team tactics" in solo queue. However there are some aspects in high elo that people understand, which people in low elo wouldn't.
Nevertheless, the whole point of solo queue is to accept that fact and play your best. Go even in lane and rest of your team feeds? You didn't carry hard enough. To advance in low elo / win games in low elo you simply just have to play with the recognition that your team will lose lane by default and it's up to you to carry.
You can't implement specific "team tactics" in solo queue. However there are some aspects in high elo that people understand, which people in low elo wouldn't.
Nevertheless, the whole point of solo queue is to accept that fact and play your best. Go even in lane and rest of your team feeds? You didn't carry hard enough. To advance in low elo / win games in low elo you simply just have to play with the recognition that your team will lose lane by default and it's up to you to carry.
And when you say that.. the irony of which my last game just now, we lost the game because my jungler went (literally) full ****** and tried to solo two nexus turrets.
People in silver like me, have our own mindsets. We have an idea of what to do ourselves, although
it is disagreed. No, pings dont work here, neither do caps, its whether they would do it or not. Also sometimes we get placed with people from low gold, and they are indifferent.
I wonder if that truly only applies to low elo.
People in silver like me, have our own mindsets. We have an idea of what to do ourselves, although
it is disagreed. No, pings dont work here, neither do caps, its whether they would do it or not. Also sometimes we get placed with people from low gold, and they are indifferent.
I wonder if that truly only applies to low elo.
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What im talking about is team tactics "breaking" after mid/early game. Iv'e had sooo many games where my team has started very strong and practically dominated the entire game, but just at the end those little idiots become overconfident thinking that they can take on the whole enemy team by themselves, resulting in our team scattering around the map and getting killed one by one. It feels like herding a herd of sheep with down syndrome and autism.
No matter how hard i scream to chat "PLEASE STAY TOGETHER" they won't listen, they just go alone and get killed death after death after death, and leave me frustrated wondering what went wrong. And im not one of those "OMFG NOBS REPORT ALL GO THIS WAY HALP MEH" type of guys, i try to ne as good mannered as possible. Needless to say it usually ends in the enemy team getting an ace late game and winning the thing. Also, you probably guessed that im in bronze and currently in the middle of my promo matches, which im scared of playing since this is a thing that i feel happens a lot, atleast to me.
Have you ever experienced something like this? Or is it something i do wrong? And how could i possibly herd those knuckleheads in the right direction?
UPDATE: I just finished a game that was probably the most rage inducing moment of my life this far. Ok, maybe not but it felt as if a 50. cal bullet through my forehead wasnt enough to ease my mental pain suffered from ignorant and outright stupid team mates.
My stats for the game were 20/7/10, i was playing my man heimer and trying to carry our team. And it would have succeeded if my teammates would have listened to me. First i started to give calls to chat like "all mid please" "def" etc. i was polite and never flamed even though they feeded, thinking i could carry us. As the game progressed, however, my frustation soon evolved into mad yelling into chat (i know, i shouldnt do that but man, were they frustrating to play with) the reason for that is that they purposedly ignored my calls since the first minute, they never went with the team all roaming across the map and systematically get killed by the enemy. When i tried to get us together they answered "stfu *******" or just "no". I tried to inform them (politely at the start) that we would lose if we didnt go together. Well it didnt work because the answer was always by the lines of "no" "stfu" etc. and we lost pretty badly.
The most furiating part was that the game would have been easily won if we would have went together, but we didnt and i couldnt do absolutely anything for it. If you play like this, if you like to be that lone wolf commando, QUIT LOL! Im serious, this game is not.for.you, play fps shooters or games where you dont have to play as a team.
I feel a bit better that i could write this and express my anger through internet, but damn, is my forehead sore. Im gonna grab a beer now and maybe stop playing lol for a few days, thank god it wasnt a ranked game.