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Proof Dominion Wins Are Random

Creator: Xander756 March 26, 2014 10:20am

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I really wanted to bash this guy when this thread just came out but everyone said the same things I wanted to say.

Ok xander pls. You wrote that article, claiming

Xander756 wrote:


Everybody has around a 50% win rate. Not just me.



as the basis of your argument that Dominion is pure random.

Please, according to that every single game is won randomly. And from the very start, you said "no matter how hard you try and how good you do, the win is not earned". This isn't logical in the first place, so you're telling me, for example, my team are 100 kills up and each of us is like 20/0, and the enemies proceed to afk at spawn. And I do not win because"dominion wins are random".

Makes no sense no matter how I view this. Enlighten me, if you can.
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Also, you said the so-called "slot machine effect" occurs when your team has worse players than the enemy team. Then again, the argument of "wins are random" also applies to every single map, which makes no sense again. You said everything attributes to luck, so if my team has teamwork but less skills than the opponent but vice versa, the gameplay we do to achieve and Earn that win, would you say its luck?

In your article, you stated the following:

"No matter what you do in a Dominion game, you can’t individually help your team win."

same applies to every single map.

"So how did Vayne’s team lose if their team performed better across the board? Because wins and losses in Dominion are all luck."

Yeah, using my ridiculous example in my previous post that will never actually happen, if you lead by n kills and enemies are afk, I may still lose because LUCK?

"Despite never dying at all, my team still only ended up winning four out of the ten games."

Bad teamwork, easy. And bad teamwork ≠ luck.

No, your article makes zero sense. It is just made up of seemingly accurate and your so-called studies pile-of-dung. No, dominion wins are not random. It is earned. Your "money on the mind" experiment does not mean anything either, one player has the advantage but the other doesn't. The player that comes out on top could be either, come on, its like saying someone with IQ of 160 will always win someone with IQ of 80, and he didnt earn it.
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Anyway that author "has a bachelor's degree" in criminology. And he's writing an article about chances and odds. Whut
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can i ask where you went to school for journalism? i think i would be content writing complete ******** and getting paid for it like you do, seems like it would be a good living, please put a good word in for me


Did you know you don't have to have a degree in journalism to become a journalist? You could do it right now. If it's so easy to make a living as a writer, why don't you give it a whirl?
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I just had a quick look at the article and I immediately noticed one very majorg fallacy. Dominion is not about kills/deaths but about smart map play combined with some mechanics. If you have 0 deaths, you probably never went deep to capture objectives and hold them.
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Quoted:

This is somewhat disappointing.

Xander756 wasn't banned for accusing someone of hacking. He was banned for being reported in 26% of his games and having 5 Tribunal cases in 2 months. He's acquired hundreds of reports in just a few months. His in-game, pre-game and post-game chat are all horrible. He was banned for extremely vulgar language that ranged from sexual to racial slurs. For example, he talks about "punishing [a woman] with violent an*l after a fight" and "destroying that ***." He calls out Mexicans and tells them to get off the NA server. He uses "gay" in a derogatory manner against other players. He uses "raping" to describe when he owns a player. One of his insults is "Go back to your hiding place, al-Qaeda." This is all in addition to the regular dictionary of a toxic player such as using "noobs" over and over in games or calling players "stupid noobs" in so many games I've lost count. I actually won't post other examples because it got disturbing.

Since I know the Tribunal sent Reform Cards for many of these examples, I'm disappointed that the takeaway message was "Riot supports hackers." The takeaway is, Riot doesn't like jerks.

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http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/forum/general/why-fizz-takes-no-skill-21250
http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/forum/general/greatest-dominion-players-21016
http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/forum/general/why-thresh-is-op-20869
http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/forum/general/does-riot-games-support-hacking-18462
http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/forum/general/0-00-second-death-18903

I don't even understand why you guys are still discussing these things.
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Xander756 wrote:


Did you know you don't have to have a degree in journalism to become a journalist? You could do it right now. If it's so easy to make a living as a writer, why don't you give it a whirl?


Did you know that you have no credibility here anymore?
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@Janitsu

That's hilarious, I can't believe I forgot about that one. I just found another thread on google too. Good stuff.

http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2694754
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Vynertje wrote:

I just had a quick look at the article and I immediately noticed one very majorg fallacy. Dominion is not about kills/deaths but about smart map play combined with some mechanics. If you have 0 deaths, you probably never went deep to capture objectives and hold them.


You're saying someone with 0 deaths never went to capture objectives? Did you also notice in that same screenshot that I led the game in both captures and neutralizations of enemy capture points? Care to try again?
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Vynertje wrote:

I just had a quick look at the article and I immediately noticed one very majorg fallacy. Dominion is not about kills/deaths but about smart map play combined with some mechanics. If you have 0 deaths, you probably never went deep to capture objectives and hold them.



Xander756 wrote:

You're saying someone with 0 deaths never went to capture objectives? Did you also notice in that same screenshot that I led the game in both captures and neutralizations of enemy capture points? Care to try again?



Where exactly did he say that someone with 0 deaths never went to capture objectives? I didn't notice.

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