What Are All The Champions That Fall Off?

[quote=Latest Legend][quote=Vapora Dark] [quote=OTGBionicArm] [[Talon]] falls off like mad. [/quote] Talon's late-game is beast, it's his early-game that's iffy. :P [/quote] Oh? I heard he's always dead late-game.[/quote]

[quote=Kalaaver]So, which is better to get first [[Twitch]] or [[Graves]]?[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]Lee sin doesn't really fall off if you play properly lol[/quote]

[quote=Jimmydoggga 2.0]You have to try them both to get a good idea bceause they're so different. I mean Graves falls off because hes good early and Twitch doesnt fall off because hes very difficult to play.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][[Graves]] falls off because a lot of his damage is baked into his abilities; [[Buckshot]] and [[collateral damage]]. He has problems dealing with heavy tanks; the remedy would be to build [[Blade of the Ruined King]] or something, but the problem is he needs [[The Bloodthirster]] for his base damages and abilities so BotRK isn't really that great on him. Plus, a lot of [[Graves]] players build [[Statikk Shiv]] for the waveclear, not that Shiv is a bad item, it's just inferior to PD late game, especially when killing tanks. Most ADC's that rely on their abilities to deliver the brunt of their damage are going to have problems killing tanky enemies[/quote]

[quote=NateDog13][quote=Mooninites] [[Graves]] falls off because a lot of his damage is baked into his abilities; [[Buckshot]] and [[collateral damage]]. He has problems dealing with heavy tanks; the remedy would be to build [[Blade of the Ruined King]] or something, but the problem is he needs [[The Bloodthirster]] for his base damages and abilities so BotRK isn't really that great on him. Plus, a lot of [[Graves]] players build [[Statikk Shiv]] for the waveclear, not that Shiv is a bad item, it's just inferior to PD late game, especially when killing tanks. Most ADC's that rely on their abilities to deliver the brunt of their damage are going to have problems killing tanky enemies [/quote] The Korean scene went about using BOTRK with the classic IE followup. It works pretty well, the only problem is that you have no real kill potential (provided the enemy bot lane doesn't make mistakes) until after the BOTRK is completed (looking at around level 8-10), and that's hoping you aren't put behind in lane. It's a bit of a stretch though considering you have less MS since you wont be grabbing Shiv or PD and you'll be going into Last Whisper -> Defensive Item -> and if the game permits, another offensive item (which if it's AS, will for sure be PD, and AD probably Bloodthirster)[/quote]

[quote=NateDog13][quote=NateDog13] [quote=Mooninites] [[Graves]] falls off because a lot of his damage is baked into his abilities; [[Buckshot]] and [[collateral damage]]. He has problems dealing with heavy tanks; the remedy would be to build [[Blade of the Ruined King]] or something, but the problem is he needs [[The Bloodthirster]] for his base damages and abilities so BotRK isn't really that great on him. Plus, a lot of [[Graves]] players build [[Statikk Shiv]] for the waveclear, not that Shiv is a bad item, it's just inferior to PD late game, especially when killing tanks. Most ADC's that rely on their abilities to deliver the brunt of their damage are going to have problems killing tanky enemies [/quote] The Korean scene went about using BOTRK with the classic IE followup. It works pretty well, the only problem is that you have no real kill potential (provided the enemy bot lane doesn't make mistakes) until after the BOTRK is completed (looking at around level 8-10), and that's hoping you aren't put behind in lane. It's a bit of a stretch though considering you have less MS since you wont be grabbing Shiv or PD and you'll be going into Last Whisper -> Defensive Item -> and if the game permits, another offensive item (which if it's AS, will for sure be PD, and AD probably Bloodthirster) [/quote][/quote]