Stokyj96's Reviewing Shop!

[quote=Vynertje]Woah everyone chill out. First of all, my 'source' of saying that oce is a terrible server skill wise is indeed the size of the playerbase, but also the size and level of their competitive scene; it's far smaller and worse than any of the other servers. Secondly, as I said my intention is not to bully you away from reviewing, I want you to see the possible problems of reviewing a guide with insufficient [b]knowledge[/b]. With all respect, while you put a lot of work in your Kog'Maw guide, a lot of things showed that you have only little knowledge of the meta / optimal or sub optimal setups - and that is exactly the problem when reviewing guides. Let's assume I'm writing a guide as a newly level 30 player. I'm really unsure about some things and I want sincere feedback. You're unable to spot 'bad' things in a guide because you lack the knowledge so you instead tell them it's fine - leaving the guide author content but also thinking his guide is decent instead of getting him to make necessary changes. Source: the ezreal guide you reviewed.[quote] the build itself is fine [/quote] [quote] Your runes are good [/quote] Not really, both are crap looking from a competitive / meta point of view. Again, this is not personal, but right now you're giving people lots of false information and as I'm one of the most active scouts on this site I feel somewhat responsible for that. [quote=jhoijhoi] [quote=Vynertje]you're essentially a bronze player (since OCE server is far below EU/NA/KR/CN) [/quote] Also, you don't have to be diamond to review a guide. Not every review has to be about the viability of the guide at Challenger elo - most MobaFire guide writers don't need that, they want to know how they can improve their guide. Improvements can come down to things unrelated to challenger level play, such as formatting, wording (including grammar/spelling etc) and other general matters. [/quote] As for above, you don't have to. However, you [b]do[/b] need to know what you're talking about. If OP wants to focus on coding, formatting, wording - he's free to focus on only that and I'll drop everything. However, he doesn't - judging from his reviews ;-)[/quote]

[quote=Meiyjhe][quote=Vynertje] As for above, you don't have to. However, you [b]do[/b] need to know what you're talking about. If OP wants to focus on coding, formatting, wording - he's free to focus on only that and I'll drop everything. However, he doesn't - judging from his reviews ;-) [/quote] This is true. If you are reviewing guides it is important that people know what your review truly means. If you aren't sure about a certain aspect or don't think you have enough knowledge on a subject, then you should either keep it out of your review or tell the author that your judgement about that aspect can be wrong. Stoky's review scheme seems to be focussed on explanations, structure and coding. If he keeps focussing on that and avoid build judgements, then this "OCE"-problem shouldn't be a concern. EDIT: v @Stoky v; It's fine that you do not wish to follow the meta and stuff, but for a lot of people it does matter. If you review guides and say that the build is fine whereas metawise it is not, the writer might indeed get the wrong idea and mislead many readers that DO wish to follow the meta.[/quote]

[quote=Stokyj96][quote]Not really, both are crap looking from a competitive / meta point of view.[/quote] [quote]v @Stoky v; It's fine that you do not wish to follow the meta and stuff, but for a lot of people it does matter. If you review guides and say that the build is fine whereas metawise it is not, the writer might indeed get the wrong idea and mislead many readers that DO wish to follow the meta.[/quote] I play [[Poppy]] and AP [[Kog'Maw]] the meta is not important to me, all I really care about is helping people express their love for champions, I'm not looking for the most practical guides. If he wants to build that on ezreal, let him! Hahaha it's how he plays ezreal. As a side note I used to main moragana support in season 3. I got harassed from people saying why do you play such a bad pick, its not the meta. But I knew that it countered Leona, so I played it and guess what it became a viable niche pick. Anyway, thank you for your input, and I see where your coming from, but you have to consider everyones ideas, no one is forcing you to make the most viable build in the world, that is what is so great about the community, people have different tastes :) *Edit* : Guess your right, sorry Vynertje, just been a big week at work and I'm not in the mood for a "viable" argument, I tend to get defensive, I'll just add at the top of my review chart that I do reviews based upon my own opnions and ask the build-maker to state whether it is supposed to be meta/non-meta orientated.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]I don't want to keep nitpicking but my point wasn't only about meta, but also about the difference between optimal / sub optimal setups. The ezreal guide is bad from both a meta [b]and[/b] non meta perspective - because a lot of the things he does are sub optimal. The example was the runes. Even if he's doing something goofy, there'd be a lot better way to do so. 3x lifesteal quints after the changes is just flat out bad.[/quote]

[quote=Stokyj96]That's the meta, just saying.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]The difference between optimal / sub optimal generally doesn't have a thing to do with meta, and that is the exact problem I'm trying to get you to understand.[/quote]

[quote=Brian Hail]http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/fiora-the-crimson-blade-354029 Score out of 10. Looking at everything.[/quote]

[quote=Stokyj96]Cheers Brian Hail, All Done! ~Stokyj96~[/quote]

[quote=Wicked Eye]I want to request a review! I think the biggest problem with my guide is grammar, so if you could be very nitpick with that, it would be great. Also, I'm currently out of ideas on how to improve my guide, so if you have any, please say as well! The link is in the signature :3[/quote]